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Saturday 31st March 2007. Smith And Jones kicks off series three on BBC1.
Here's edited highlights of the reactions on the forum around the time...
We asked our members to give Smith And Jones a rating from 1 to 10 after the initial transmission. The average
rating came out as 7.35 out of 10 with 44% of people giving it 8/10 - quite a popular story, then! :-)
| Alex Finch | A Hospital on the Moon! Walking Rhinos! An Old Woman Sucking Off An Old Man! Lots Of Running Around! I liked it!
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| Trudi Gard | I have to say, i thought it was quite average, although it showed us Martha's character quite well. I'm sure my 7 year old will love it though! One thing i was waiting for was an explanation into how the old lady drained his blood, and he registered as dead - but was revived by the kiss of life and chest compressions..... |
| MacNimon | A huge improvement on last years opener though, I really enjoyed this one. It maybe won't hold up to close inspection, but for the moment I'm happy. |
| Phil L | So far this is getting a decidedly solid 8. And I liked it too. For me it was "Cracking, Gromit!" . A good solid start to the new season.I liked the Martha character; it was a nice touch that she kept her head whilst everyone else fell to pieces and was quite perceptive; case in point being the conversation on the balcony of the hospital. My Mum doesn't get the time travel/tie bit. But I do, and that's a nice touch. Can the Doctor stop his hearts? |
| Larry | very solid and enjoyable start and IMO the best season opener of the new series so far Freema, was excelent and has clearly hit it off with David Tennent straight away. The family moments didn't really bother me to much and I actualy found the scenes with Martha's dad and his air head bimbo girl friend quite funny. As for the Judoon, every thing about them looked fantastic from their battle armour suits to their rhino heads and just loved their menacing stomping around and Ogron type intelligence. a very solid 8 for me. |
| Andrew Curnow | Ha-ha, I just really enjoyed it, what a romp! "We're on the bloody moon" is already a classic line. And it's probably an indicator of how many spoilers I've avoided, that I didn't realise until tonight that Martha's dad was being played by matey from "Mindwarp" (whatsisname Laird who made Colin Baker laugh a lot, apparently). |
| WhiteCrowUK | Sorry - just a 5 from me. Nothing terribly wrong, but nothing terribly great. Didn't like Martha family, they seemed something out of a bad sitcom. Plus Martha feels just a bit too much like Rose in a white coat at this point. When I was out of the room (more wine anyone?) she even sounded like her. And my wife will not stop going on about aliens with marker pens. She thought with advanced alien tech, they should have some kind of laser brand. However when I told her, what would she rather kids in the playground be copying the Judhoon with, firey hot brands or marker pens, she calmed down. And of course all this mad running around hospital corridors was a bit New Earth. Nice to see they had a Hospital Shop though! |
| Count Scarlioni | For what was basically a reboot episode, this more or less touched all the important bases- introduced Martha and her family, involved her with the Doctor straight away, new aliens, decent guest star turns etc. There really ought to be a Russell T Davies Script Bingo game though- "airheaded blonde"- check; "throwaway pop culture reference- check", "opportunity for Doctor to do a bit of physical comedy-check", "companion shows how feisty she is- house!". Nothing you can really fault it on, though. |
| Jonno Simmons | Very, very impressed - for me, that was the best season opener since 1988 (and before that, 1977). A big yay to Freema first and foremost for not only making Martha instantly likeable, but also making me not miss Rose at all (sorry Billie, but for me you were so much better in S1). Because then, they'd be less inclined to go off with the Doctor, I would imagine! Nice little nods to "Rose" actually - no pre-credits sequence (I assume and hope they will return for the rest of the series though), the repetition of the "Run!" while holding hands sequence, and of course her amazement at the TARDIS interior - loved the Doctor's miming of "bigger on the inside" as explained in the subsequent Confidential. The Judoon were excellent - design wise, more than a nod surely to the Sontarans but then you couldn't really have brought them back as a police force! They're right up there with the Ood for me as the best new monster race. |
| Duncan | 4/5 from me. That was a good series opener. It was very visual and Freema was OK. I thought she was going to be a bit wooden, but she wasnt. |
| P-Bal | It was a treat and a half. I forewarned you all the Freema Freema Flickerbeana would be fabbo, now bow down before my wisdom! Get her mum bigger hair and an even bigger hat. |
| James Lindsay | get Tish in a shorter skirt. or get Trevor Laird some acting lessons! |
| The Secretive Bus | Solid switch-your-brain-off fun, really. Martha's a lot more likeable than Rose ever was and the Doctor got lots of good Doctorly stuff to do, aside from that radiation scene where I was convinced RTD had written in a "Doctor farts out radiation" joke, which mercifully didn't happen. Odd that the Judoon were such a Sontaran rip-off (clones of a cloned species - gosh): averagely intelligent, stocky, militaristic soldiers with helmets the same size as their heads and little wand thingies. I quite like them all the same. Still, as noted at least they weren't stock villains: just rather stern aliens with a job to do. Frankly I think I prefer them to the Sontarans. 7/10 |
| Stephen Hannan | a 5/10 from me. I really hope that the "family" soap story does not get in the way as much as in the last two series. It's time we got away from this type of participation in the newer series. Also really do hope that Martha turns out to be a proper companion and not a "Girlfriend in waiting" especially as I think we saw the smoke signals in tonights show, And where there's smoke there's |
| Darren | I agree that it was the best season opener so far and Martha is far more likeable than Rose. She's able to think for herself and is much more mature. The dynamic between her and the Doctor is looking good already. I was a bit worried at the start as the acting and dialogue seemed a little dodgy. My only real complaint is that Roy Marsden was wasted as a secondary character. And why did the Plasmavore need to wipe out half of Earth's population just to take the Judoon's ships? And how did she end up stranded on Earth anyway? Okay, that was three complaints. |
| Zbigniev Hamson | The Doctor can't have a very high opinion of humans if he thinks that anyone who doesn't instantly run around screaming, and who might consider the non-airtightness of hospital windows, to be amaaaazing. |
| Wayne Jefferies | I enjoyed it, even if i found a couple of things a bit. Most notably the Doctor's kiss of life/heart massage thing referred to earlier. And i couldn't help but wonder how many more different reasons/excuses there will be in the future for the Doctor to kiss his assistant. (That wasn't a kiss, that was a *insert _ _ _ _ _ ) Not that these things bother me that much, but there's just no good reason for it, & seeing the Doctor kiss his sidekick is getting a bit boring now. There's still some poor Tennant bits, but i think in all honesty i'm past the point of caring now about really liking his Doctor. I don't care enough to let the silly/OTT bits annoy me, If you know what i mean. My attitude towards the S3 is: so long as i like it more than i dislike it, then i'm happy to settle for that, & if they do a few episodes that i really like, as they did in the previous season, then that's a bonus. Luckily for me, i liked Martha a lot, so that made up for it quite a bit. Despite not liking the way Rose's character was shaped throughout the previous season, i don't think that Freema is as natural an actress as Billie Piper, but i still think she did very well, & can hopefully only continue to improve. I quite liked the Judoon, who reminded me a bit of a cross between the Sontarans & the Nimon. FWIW, I think the masks looked better then both the Slitheen & the Ood. |
| Stephen Morgan | loved it, really, really enjoyed it, though more use could have made more use of the Judoon, what great monsters they were. Doctor Who is back , it marched across our screens tonight with all the sublety of a stampeding rhino. Long may it continue! |
| Jason Thompson | A good solid start to the new series. To get the criticisms out of the way first: Martha is not much different from Rose. OK, she has a job and a life that seems to actually have something going on, but how relevant will any of that be once she starts travelling in the TARDIS? Her family is far more bloody annoying though. I'd really rather not see any of them again, though the fashion now seems to be to have a companion with a life that we have to keep revisiting because how could we possibly follow a character development unless we keep going back to the start every so often to compare? The 'getting the radiation into the shoes' bit. What was the point? Oh look, another bloody kiss. And just like the previous two, it was pointless. Yes, I know it was a way of 'contaminating' her with alien material, but that's still a flimsy justification for getting in another 'fan-baiting' moment. Apart from those things, however, I enjoyed it. It kept me interested. The Judoon were a bit more interesting than standard aliens wanting to take over the Earth, and they looked great. One of RTD's better efforts. I hope the rest of the series is at least this goodl |
| transvamp | Was looking forward to series three, but I got a sinking feeling already at how mean the Doctor was to that other nurse. I don't think I'll ever like the modern Doctor. I have a feeling I'll probably only stick it out until the Daleks Take Manhattan story. |
| Andrew Curnow | Conversely, though, what about when he deliberately let the Plasmavore drain his blood, risking his own life, so that the Judoon would find the creature and leave and return the hospital and its inhabitants to the Earth? Putting his life on the line to save the day? That seems very much like the 'old' Doctor to me. |
Carol Baynes |
I've been having a think about this, and I do now think that the new series might be missing something that the old series had. I've been watching a lot of season 18 and 19 recently so I can have a say in the PS poll, and there aren't many stories in the new series that I would re-watch with the enthusiasm I'd give to these, and I don't think that's all down to nostalgia. What I'd really like is for the new series to give us a few historical "Black Orchid" type stories or put a bit of the atmospheeric horror element back in there and slow things down just a little bit. Maybe even a really strange story with a lot of big ideas like "Warriors gate" once in a while; get the series to stretch itself once in a while. I know this is modern telly, but I also don't really want every story to go past at break neck speed. I also don't want to see or hear anything of the companions' family. They're on board the TARDIS and they shouldn't see their families again until their final epsiode in my opinion. Companions' families aren't my favourite inclusion, even if I didn't mind Rose's. |
| davethesailor | I really enjoyed this episode. I certainly preferred it to New Earth. Difficult to compare it to Rose as that will always be special to me indeed. |
| Andy Allen-Frankham | For those following the Saxon references; as well as the poser in this episode, and the reference to him in the news report, there was also a 'Vote Saxon' poster in the Torchwood episode, 'Captain Jack Harkness'. Now then. This episode. I liked it. No masterpiece, but jolly good fun all the same. Martha gets the thumbs up, as does her line about having no romantic interest in the Doctor, and her connection to Adeola from 'Army of Ghosts' - it was a link that needed not be explained, but nice that they did. The Judoon were cool, too. Nothing amazing, but they worked well in context. And I have a feeling we might see more of them in the future. Certainly an alien species that could be explored more. |
| Pip Madeley | I thought it was a very good episode. They've got a shop! :-D |
| Milky Tears | That was the best bit... along with the Quizmania/Planet Zovirax lines. :-D |
| Andrew Curnow | We all liked the early bits where he kept on popping up - first on the street with his tie, and then unexpectedly in the hospital. And after last year's continual uncertainty, I've now fully stabilised and am really enjoying Tennant's Doctor. Just wait, now I've said that he'll be announcing tomorrow that he's leaving!! |
| Stuart Wallis | Not a bad start, certainly a better start than last year anyway. I'm starting to warm to Martha already, though whether her family are any good remains to be seen. I can see them being just as "soapy" as Rose's lot if they're not careful. The Judoon were good, it would be nice to see them back if possible (and I'm sure that Nick Briggs would too!). I was very impressed with their spaceship; The Mill did a good job there. The main problem I had was when the Judoon entered the forcefield - why didn't the air get out when they got in? At least the lack of air was addressed towards the end though. |
| cullsoft | Much as I liked the Judoon too, I felt a bit dissapointed when the leader removed his helmet and turned out not to be a Sontaran! |
| Si Hart | Very good. A nice opener to the season. I think Freema was great. |
| perry vale | 1/10, Worst episode ever! I put my foot through my tv screen when I realised RTD had thrown continuity out with the bathwater, and got rid of the 'zoom down' to Earth. The first few minutes were like an episode of 'No Angels', FFS RTD, what's with the soap?! |
| WhiteCrowUK | Am I the only one who when the dark cloud surrounded the Hospital heard the tune Darkplace, Darkplace, Darkplace...
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| Andrew Curnow | I'm glad to see it's gone down so well, because I really enjoyed this one. I remembered today the first bit with the Judoon, which made us laugh - you know, the bit before they've assimilated the English language, and he goes something like "Hol kroll roll poll toll noll koll joll doll" and they all get their guns out. |
| Si Hart | Very good. A nice opener to the season. I think Freema was great. |
| Paul Clement | It was generally a pretty average story, with one or two moments that were great, such as when they first looked out over the moon, but also containing some very weak elements like the Plasmavore and it's straw. Again, Martha was at times excellent, and at others a poor imitation of Rose, though I hope this will change as the season goes on. It was certainly the best of the season openers, but then again, Rose and New Earth aren't exactly much in the way of competition. |
| Rob McCow | I gave this story 10 as there is now a Doctor Who character called 'Tish'. |
| Si Hunt | I gave it 8 bloodsucking alien fugitives out of 10. Really enjoyable, and surprisingly hole-free plot for RTD. A promising, if unspectacular start for Freema and I REALLY took to the Judoon. I'm proud to welcome them to the ranks of classic Who monsters. |
| Antony Cox | I gave it an 'average' vote. It was OK, but overall rather dull. Martha was OK but didn't grab me in the same way that Rose did. The supporting cast was excellent, particularly Roy Marsden who played the pedantic and patronising consultant perfectly. DT himself was OK in this one, too. There wasn't too much OTT-ing on his part, and thus this aspect of the show wasn't as distracting as I found it last year. I just hope the season gets a bit more exciting as it progresses and I enjoy things overall more than I did the last one. |
| Jon Masters | I gave it a 6/10. Things I liked - Martha, the stuff on the moon, the Judoon (though how they could see through those helmets when their eyes are on the sides I don't know), the banter (far less smug so far). Things I marked it down for - the Eastenders style soap family bust up (I was expecting the drums at any minute), RTD's inability to not mention Rose, the name Plasmavore (let's not p'## about - she drinks blood that makes her a Haemovore at least), and the very dodgy science bits and plot holes. (as a science teacher I long for the day when DW does some science properly, and avoids all the cliched mistakes that sci-fi usually makes, if only so I can use it in my lessons. Sadly that day wasn't Saturday ) |
| Logo Polish | It was OK, it rattled through well enough. Set up feels a bit like Stones of Blood in a way. A villain on the run with a couple of henchmen/monsters in tow and bloodsucking involved (they were even called Slabs...not that different to large stones), being pursued by some extra-planetary justices with a habit of executing people who break the seals...I mean, attack them. There's even a bit where Martha tries to get them to scan Anne Reid to discover her true species/identity as with the Megara and the Cessair in the earlier story. Anyway it was enjoyable, if lightweight. |
| Dave Tudor | Well I thought it was really, really good - surprisingly so, even. I'm always very enthusiastic about the new series, but I wasn't sure what I was going to make of this new relaunch. However, if I had had any worries, I needn't have, as this was an engrossing, slick, fast-paced, funny, action-packed tale with good performances all round, strong direction from newcomer Charles Palmer, brilliantly realised new monsters in the Judoon, and some wonderful dialogue and plotting by Russell T Davies. Yes, there were a lot of introductions to be made, but thankfully a good, exciting - if straightforward - storyline was not sacrificed. |
Compiled on 8th April 2007.
