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24th Nov 2006, 9:40 PM #1
Russian Ex-Spy In Radioactive Food Death
The former Russian spy who claimed to have been poisoned by his country's government was killed by radioactive material in his body, it has been disclosed.
As detectives and specialist experts began a hunt for traces of the radiation, Alexander Litvinenko's family released his deathbed statement, pointing the finger of blame for his killing at Russian president Vladimir Putin.
But Mr Putin hit back at the allegations, insisting there was no proof that Mr Litvinenko's death was "violent".
Surely there are easier, more subtle ways to poison someone, especially someone who's going to rant and rave about the KGB on his death-bed?
Mr Litvinenko's deathbed statement said of Mr Putin: "You have shown yourself to be as barbaric and ruthless as your most hostile critics have claimed.
"You may succeed in silencing one man, but the howl of protest from around the world will reverberate, Mr Putin, in your ears for the rest of your life.
"May God forgive you for what you have done, not only to me, but to beloved Russia and its people."Pity. I have no understanding of the word. It is not registered in my vocabulary bank. EXTERMINATE!
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24th Nov 2006, 10:47 PM #2
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25th Nov 2006, 1:30 PM #3
The KGB have used poison as a favoured means of assassination for years now. The umbrella that fired a Ricin dart used to kill Bulgarian Georgi Markov was believed to be at the instigation of the KGB, as was the poisoning of Ukrainian president Viktor Yushchenko. There was also a documentary on tv about it a few months ago, which had Anna Politkovskaya stating she believed she had been poisoned for opposing Putin's actions in Chechnya. Since then of course she was shot and killed, again believed at the order of the KGB.
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25th Nov 2006, 2:53 PM #4
But aren't the KGB kaput? They were all disbanded as an organisation under the new Democratic Russian Constitution. They still have their police forces and military, but no secret police.
Pity. I have no understanding of the word. It is not registered in my vocabulary bank. EXTERMINATE!
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25th Nov 2006, 3:02 PM #5But aren't the KGB kaput? They were all disbanded as an organisation under the new Democratic Russian Constitution. They still have their police forces and military, but no secret police.
Last edited by Paul Clement; 25th Nov 2006 at 3:03 PM.
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25th Nov 2006, 4:21 PM #6
Don't you believe it there are still a lot of old time hard liners in Russia, and every major country has it's secret services who are still operating out side the law. Our own MI5 & MI6 probably still carry out political assasinations from time to time so it should be no supprise if Russia have done the same.
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5th Dec 2006, 9:10 PM #7
The news has gone all James Bond! Aren't we meant to be avoiding certain plane flights because of this or did I imagine it??...
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6th Dec 2006, 9:35 AM #8
This story is ridiculous! It just doesn't make sense. If you want to bump someone off to stop them blabbing then you don't do it with a complicated hard to produce radio isotope that kills very slowly, leaves a very obvious trail and causes a huge media panic (radiation is very news worthy). You choose ricin or something similar that kills very quickly and in virtually untraceable. And I'm not convinced that the health authorities are really finding trails of it everywhere. I'm not even convinced that they're experts on this sort of thing. I could go out on the streets of London with a contam monitor and find radioactivity all over the place. In fact I have done that a couple of times! Its great fun for unnerving people.
And if anyone is worried about getting radioactivity on you I wouldn't worry too much. You need to digest a fairly highly active amount in order to make you ill. The amounts you'd pick up off a plane seat would or something would be negligable. The air pollution in London is probably more harmful.
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10th Dec 2006, 8:05 PM #9
Maybe the point was to send a message to Putins enemies that they aren't safe anywhere. "Stop what you are doing because we can get you any time we like!" Doing it in such an audacious and exotic way would serve to hammer home the message and also demonstrate to foreign powers that Putin is capable of standing up to them by blatantly murdering their citizens under their noses.
Of course all this could just be the result of a paranoid mans conspiracy theories, he could have been up to something sketchy himself and ingested the palonium by accident. But the thing is, everyone who knew Litvinenko has only nice things to say about him, Putin has a very shady track record, and only a few months ago gave his agents a licence to kill.
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10th Dec 2006, 10:17 PM #10
I guess I hadn't thought of it from that angle.
I guess I struggle with the bad science of radioactivity reported in the media too much!
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