Thread: Eurovision 2008
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1st Mar 2008, 8:08 PM #26
Well, the 4 best songs went through. But things still might not go the way we think. The public are funny creatures.
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1st Mar 2008, 8:38 PM #27
Andy Abraham was by far the best singer on the night, but I conceed that his song was not a Eurovision kind of song. For me it's between The Revelations and Michelle Gayle. I'll stick my neck out and say Michelle Gayle will win it, but this is Eurovison so what do I know.
I’m being extremely clever up here and there’s no one to stand around looking impressed! What’s the point in having you all?
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1st Mar 2008, 9:14 PM #28
We agree with Tim, stupid old Terry should not have given the public a chance to pick a dud. Mind you, this is the man that last year announced the wrong act as winner by mistake.
Si.
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1st Mar 2008, 9:35 PM #29
Andy Abraham & Michelle Gayle are through to the sing off, basically the known people.
Michelle Gayle had better win!
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1st Mar 2008, 9:57 PM #30
Oh FFS!
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1st Mar 2008, 10:00 PM #31
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1st Mar 2008, 10:01 PM #32
What is so wrong with Andy?
He has a great voice. We are never going to win the contest no matter who we send so why not send out a great singer and show them that we are not a nation of Gemini's and Scooch's?I’m being extremely clever up here and there’s no one to stand around looking impressed! What’s the point in having you all?
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1st Mar 2008, 10:02 PM #33
Oh for F*ks sake. This is an absolute swizz. We are GUTTED.
What's the POINT of having a judges-based system if you're going to allow the presenter to let one of the losers through and then the British public to vote for him because they know him from a show which gets 20m viewers??
Eurovision is about big songs, spectacle, costumes, props and performance. And what have we got?
Some baldy twat of a dustman singing a little ditty he's just written.
Disaster.
Si.
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1st Mar 2008, 10:03 PM #34
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1st Mar 2008, 10:06 PM #35
Yes, they were indeed. I posted that I thought MG should win it. But we have picked a great singer for once and when you look at past UK entries, that is something we havent done.
I’m being extremely clever up here and there’s no one to stand around looking impressed! What’s the point in having you all?
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1st Mar 2008, 10:07 PM #36He has a great voice. We are never going to win the contest no matter who we send so why not send out a great singer and show them that we are not a nation of Gemini's and Scooch's?
It's a crap song. Like a Jackson 5 bside from or something.
Michelle wasn't that strong vocally and perhaps the song was slightly too knowingly camp and self aware but I thought it was memorable, well structured and much more likely to do well than Andy.
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1st Mar 2008, 10:11 PM #37
I couldn't sing the chorus of the last 5 winners of Eurovision. So a song doesn't have to be memorable.
I agree that MG's was catchy but the chorus was out of tune and that could have sounded awful on the big stage of Eurovision. And's wasn't so catchy but he sung it well. I do agree that his song may not be a winner, but MG may never have won it either, I suppose we will never know now, but Europe doesn't like the UK anymore.I’m being extremely clever up here and there’s no one to stand around looking impressed! What’s the point in having you all?
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1st Mar 2008, 10:12 PM #38
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1st Mar 2008, 10:16 PM #39
How many of the past half dozen winners have been good? Good doesn't count in Eurovison imho.
I don't necessarily agree with Andy winning A Song for Europe, as previously stated, I wanted Michelle Gayle to win. I just don't think that it's a disaster.I’m being extremely clever up here and there’s no one to stand around looking impressed! What’s the point in having you all?
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1st Mar 2008, 10:21 PM #40
The reasoning that there is nothing wrong with Andy is debatable. He may be a great singer with a good, strong voice, but his is not a Eurovision song. I stand by what I said in my previous posts, he was the best of the worst, and we have Wogan to blame for his "wild card" the song is a dud, and certainly not a Eurovision winner. So who's voted for him? The Gran's who voted for him on X Factor, or the general music loving public?
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1st Mar 2008, 10:23 PM #41
Eurovision fans I suspect. The same ones that voted Scooch and Gemini through. The reasoning that there is nothing wrong with Andy is quite rightly debatable, and I stand by my previous post that this is not as big a disaster as some think.
I’m being extremely clever up here and there’s no one to stand around looking impressed! What’s the point in having you all?
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2nd Mar 2008, 12:15 AM #42
The Bin Man's dodgy ditty has raped my Sydney Youngblood lovin' childhood!
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2nd Mar 2008, 1:27 AM #43Eurovision fans I suspect. The same ones that voted Scooch and Gemini through.
Andy had a Number 1 album last year off the back of the 12m viewers that watched "X-Factor" that year. All those Mums are going to have been playing the album and voted for harmless, dull old Andy because of it. Christ, when will we stop placing our Eurovision chances in the hands of stupid old Joe Public?
Si.
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2nd Mar 2008, 9:55 AM #44
I say that mainly because A Song for Europe doesn't normally do well in the ratings. Of course there would have been a cross section of the general public voting, but my opinion is that A song for Europe is for Eurovision fans. You seem quite definate that I am wrong, but I have only ever given my opinion in my posts. Whose to say my opinion is wrong and your is right?
Michelle Gayle is a well known name. How can you say that she has never been heard of?
Up until Gemini a few years back, we had been doing fairly well with the public vote and I personally don't see any reason for change. Andy does not have a winning song, but with the way the voting goes in Eurovision, will we ever have a winning song again?I’m being extremely clever up here and there’s no one to stand around looking impressed! What’s the point in having you all?
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2nd Mar 2008, 11:14 AM #45You seem quite definate that I am wrong, but I have only ever given my opinion in my posts. Whose to say my opinion is wrong and your is right?
I say that mainly because A Song for Europe doesn't normally do well in the ratings.
Michelle Gayle is a well known name. How can you say that she has never been heard of?
Andy does not have a winning song, but with the way the voting goes in Eurovision, will we ever have a winning song again?
Also I repeat my objection at the 'rigging' of the vote through the awful 'wild card' cheat. What's the point of having judges if someone they have decided to elliminate is allowed BACK IN to win at public vote?! It's absurd!
Si.
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2nd Mar 2008, 11:35 AM #46
OK. Fair enough. But I am in no way defending Andy. All I have maintained is that it's not the end of the world. I would have preferred Michelle Gayle or even The Revelations to win, but I had concerns about their vocal performances and how that would come across on the big stage of Eurovision. Remember Gemini? However, they didn't win. Andy did. His song is a decent enough song that would probably be a top 20 hit, but it isn't a Eurovision song. However, he sings it very well and a good voice might, just might carry him into the top 10 of Eurovision this year. Then again, it may not. We will have to wait to find out. All I'm saying is that, for me, it's not a crisis that he won and my other two preferences didn't.
Anyway, no need to apologise, you were only giving your opinion as was I.
As for the ratings, I could very well be wrong, but the Song Contest does indeed perform very well each year, but A Song for Europe doesn't. I'm sure the overnights will tell.I’m being extremely clever up here and there’s no one to stand around looking impressed! What’s the point in having you all?
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2nd Mar 2008, 11:38 AM #47How many of the past half dozen winners have been good? Good doesn't count in Eurovison imho
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eurovis...inners#Winners
I didn't like last years winner by the Deep Roy look alike at all and I wasn't mad on Lordi's heavy metal one in 2006 with the monster masks but 2004's "Wild Dances" and 2005's "My Number One" were both genuinely decent pop songs as was 1999s and 2003s.
Whatever people thought of our "Teenage Life", "Touch My Fire" and "Flying the Flag" at least they were lively performances on the night even if they flopped like old tits at the voting. Andy's performance is just dull, dull, dull. Maybe they can do something with it in the rehearsals to give it some life but it's such a boring song there's very little to save it. He hasn't even got sex appeal on his side. Maybe getting in some dancers like Barrowman suggested would help but it's not even a dancey song.
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2nd Mar 2008, 12:27 PM #48
Leaving aside how good or not Andy will be, should questions be asked about just how the songs are being picked? It is a SONG contest after all. He seems to have made the 'finals' of the selection process (and bear in mind some people didn't) with a song he wrote - the man's only previous industry experience has been as runner-up in a performance based talent contest. He hasn't had any previous songwriting experience at all, as far as I can see. How, and why, did he end up writing this years entry? Not being snidey, but it can't possibly be because it's any good - I'm sure songwriting is a great hobby for him, but I heard the song four times last night and I still can't remember how it goes.
Si.
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2nd Mar 2008, 12:58 PM #49
I'll give you that. I can still sing the chorus to Michelle Gayle's song but struggle to sing any of Andy's song. That's why I wanted her to win last night.
I’m being extremely clever up here and there’s no one to stand around looking impressed! What’s the point in having you all?
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2nd Mar 2008, 1:03 PM #50
Shockingly as we've mentioned earlier in the thread Andy's song is co-written with the men who co-wrote various Spice Girls hits amongst other pop gems...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Absolute_(production_team)
Why couldn't they knock out something as good for this?
I'll stop going on about it soon but I struggle even to remember what Andy's song is called.
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