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    Default 2:10 From Out Of The Rain

    Past images come to life from an old film.

    Interesting idea but for me it was a bit slow. It wasn't outstanding but wasn't poor either. The first comment from the other end of the sofa was, "That was a quick Honeymoon wasn't it?", which is a good point.
    Jack seemed subdued & there didn't seem to be the excitement & umph to this episode.
    Average I'd say.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dirk Gently View Post
    Interesting idea but for me it was a bit slow. It wasn't outstanding but wasn't poor either.
    I i pretty much agree with you. But then i also felt like that about 'Something Borrowed', which i also just watched tonight. Though i thought this one had more atmosphere.
    I probably need to give it a another go. I don't think i was in the right mood for 'Torchwood' tonight somehow.

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    I thought the CGI was a bit lame too, but..."Past images come to life from an old film"
    I've got plenty of porn videos they could screen at that cinema if they wanted to test the theory

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    Quote Originally Posted by Master_Rose View Post
    I thought the CGI was a bit lame too, but..."Past images come to life from an old film"
    I've got plenty of porn videos they could screen at that cinema if they wanted to test the theory
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    Just when I thought it was safe to watch Torchwood...

    While it didn't reach the depths of series 1 bad, I found this episode tedious and dull.

    Nothing made sense. Much exposition without actually explaining anything (quite a feat!) Pointless (for me, can't speak for the lads on here) lack of clothing on the skinny girl (she must have been freezing!) Ianto did some WTF overacting.

    Next weeks looks good though.

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    I thought this was okay, but pretty dull overall. With Torchwood it either seems to follow the team sitting around doing nothing or going around shooting everything randomly. I didn't understand much of it either, what was the fascination with rain and water and that creepy girl? How did that bloke get that flask? Were the circus people human? Can I trap people on film with an old camera?

    I liked the creepy ringmaster guy though, a very chilling performance.

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    Best of the series so far for me, but still so much wrong with it. This should/could have been a classic, but was rather just "very good".

    Why was Jack in the old film, or rather, what was the point, storywise? Why did the team take a while before asking him about it? Why was Tosh seeing the sea all over town? What was the point of that? Why was Ianto so "attached" to what was happening? Why do we still need loads of helicopter shots every episode?

    Nice idea, nice atmosphere, and good performances from the two main carnival people. On the minus side though, Gareth David-Lloyd's performance was poor, imo.

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    again another enjoyable episode my only fault with it woould be the way they just had to film them again to trap them..

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    I really wanted to like this episode... PJ Hammond written too. However, I didn't... felt it was long and drawn out. Although I like the hint that any old film might do the same if played.
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    I wasn't expecting too much from this but I was pleasantly surprised. Like most have said, it was overlong (there was probably a good 30 minute episode in there), but I thought the direction was impressive and suitably creepy. The guy who played "The Ghostman" was really good too, it was a role which could have been disastrous in the hands of the wrong actor, but he came across as menacing rather than silly.

    The ending was a bit rubbish though, and dealt with all too quickly, which was a bit of a shame, but bar that I thought it was a pretty solid episode, a good 7/10-er.
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    I must say that this is the first episode that I 'saw them acting' rather than watching the characters. When Jack was in the Cinema I was just looking at him & seeing John Barrowman. That's why I marked it down.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Martin Penny View Post
    I liked the creepy ringmaster guy though, a very chilling performance.
    A really unique episode, well done. I agree, I think the ringmaster and the mermaid really carried this episode. Wonderful performances from them.

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    ^^ You liked it, Mike? I can see it's going to be a loooong way to Bracknell.


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    This epiosde bored me. I actually got off my seat and did other things instead. That's the first time this series that I have disliked an episode so much it failed to keep my attention.
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    I really liked this one too. It was really atmospheric and the music was really creepy and added to the tension/ creepiness this week too. I thought the idea was really well done, and it was a shame it took so long for the image of the characters walking out of the film to be seen. It would have been far creepier if they'd kept a sepia tone to them after they left though.

    It was a slower episode than usual, but I felt this was in its favour as it gave plenty of oppotunity to make it atmospheric rather than some of the slam-slam-slam paced episodes we've had.

    I still can't understand why Ianto was so emotionally involved in the plot though, but unlike Steve, I felt he was fine with it.

    I liked, but this seems to be the season's marmite episode.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NorthernStar View Post
    ^^ You liked it, Mike? I can see it's going to be a loooong way to Bracknell.

    A lot of it kind of lacked any logic agreed. But it had a creepyness which was sustained. And the ringmaster had a kind of slimy evil to him, like a satanic Terry Thomas. The mermaid girl also had a kind of malevolent innocence to her, and there's something spooky in her just in the way she walks - wouldn't be surprised if she's had some kind of dancer.

    There was a real chemistry between the mermaid and ringmaster. It really felt more their show than Torchwoods.

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    A fantastic production of a dire script. The Creepy Ringmaster was sadly ruined by reminding me of the League Of Gentlemen's far scarier Papa Lazaoru. Although Torchwood's version had nastier teeth

    I missed the first 10 minutes though, due to other commitments. From what I saw on Declassified, it looked like a pretty decent scary setup. The filmic effects as the characters jumped out of the screen were absolutely fab though.

    A few PJ Hammond-ey things: Jack was written purely as 'Steel' from Sapphire and Steel. The end seen where Jack says he worries about all these film cans, everywhere. People being out of time.

    Why was Jack in the old film, or rather, what was the point, storywise?
    I dunno, but I thought it was a good character moment for him.
    Why was Tosh seeing the sea all over town?
    Either something to do with the Mer-woman, or it was because she's rubbish, her computers are rubbish and it's a damning indicment of the Torchwood team's competence that they can't tell sea from land.
    Why was Ianto so "attached" to what was happening?
    He's a big fairy.
    Why do we still need loads of helicopter shots every episode?
    Padding! This episode felt desparately short.

    My own question - what kind of a life is that kid going to have without a family and why did no-one seem bothered about this?
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    Yes, I wondered that too. A 'happy' ending, but after the 'welcome back' and the big smile I muttered 'by the way, the rest of your family are dead'. Why did they all have to die? There didn't seem to be any reason. Oddly gratuitous death, I thought.

    I don't know why Ianto was so emotionall involved. Having Jack on the film was a nice touch, and provided a rationale for the team to accept what he was saying about the night travellers, avoiding the scepticism and disbelief (they can hardly argue about his story of being around in the 20s if they've seen him on a film from the 20s, can they?). Good performances, but not as creepy as some pre-publicity made out, and didn't seem to build to much of a climax.

    And is it just me, or does Burn Gorman have a really huge mouth?!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dirk Gently View Post
    That was a quick Honeymoon wasn't it?
    Yes, the order of episodes and the character involvement seems to have been a bit off this season. We have an episode where Gwen disappears off on honeymoon at the end, but it follows a number of episodes in which she didn't do much at all and could have been left out comfortably (i.e. all three with Martha), and one that started with her just coming back from a romantic weekend away (Adam).

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    I must say I've largely been enjoying this series of Torchwood, which is doubly surprising for me seeing as I didn't really rate Season 1. However, I found this episode to be a real disappointment. None of it really made any sense, even its own internal logic about being "captured on film" wasn't really self-consistent, who or what the bizarre mer-woman and ringmaster even were wasn't even slightly explained, why did he want to make lots of "ghosts" anyway, when he kept talking about "ghosts" was he on about the breaths in the jar or the living corpses... etc etc. Without having any idea who these people were, what they wanted, where they came from, or how they even functioned, it was hard to feel any sort of suspense as the whole thing was just one big question mark. And it wasn't very creepy either.

    However, largely enjoying most of the episodes and only finding the minority to be poor is a refreshing reversal of how I've felt about every other "New Franchise" series since 2005.

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    I thought this one was a bit of an anticlimax - there was some great imagery, and when it started I thought it was going to be a real chiller. But somehow it never really came together, and Jack's leaping to the conclusion that by filming the circus folk he could destroy them was a bit too much of a leap, and I didn't really buy it. The circus ringmaster with the moustache was very creepy though.

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    It was creepy, which was good, but it was kinda lame.

    I didn't get the thing with the dehydrated people and their last breath being held in a bottle. But I did like the circus characters manipulating the film and cutting process and then coming out of the film.

    And what's the issue with Jack's back story? We get that he's been around for a while, but shoe-horning him into the 1920's footage and being instructed to investigate the Night Circus is pushing it a bit too far.
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