I just had ANOTHER crazy thought.

[Jeff]

Si still thinks he might actually convince him...

[shada pavlova]

But where's the evidence for this? It's like inventing a theory out of thin air and then saying "prove otherwise". Like suggesting the Cybermen were really behind the invasion of Gallifrey in "Invasion of Time". There's no proof against it is there? But there's no proof FOR it on screen, we know that wasn't intended, so what the hecky-thump are we doing talking about it? What's your point? There's no way you can ever prove it, and there's no way anyone else could ever disprove it.

I am fully aware of that. I only created this thread in order to speculate, theorise and excercise the imagination a little. I wasn't trying to PROVE anything. If I may refer you to the title of the thread: "I just had another CRAZY thought. I didn't expect someone to come barging in, claiming all that is said here is a load of excrement and can never be proven.

Also, "hecky-thump"?!? What the flying wurzel-stick is that about?!

[Jeff]

Ecky-Thump

And then Jack White changed it to Icky and made it the title of an album...

[shada pavlova]

well, that explains a lot.

[SiHart]

Someone laughed so hard at the Ecky-Thump episode of The Goodies that they died. True fact!

Si xx

[Jeff]

True fact!

Si xx

Is there another kind?

[Dirk Gently]

Opinionated fact. Something you believe in that you won't be swayed from it. Even if it isn't a fact.

[Jeff]

You just made that up.

Anyway, that wouldn't really be a fact.

[Stuart Wallis]

Not having a go at anyone, just a vaguely relevant quote: The very powerful and the very stupid have one thing in common - they change the facts to fit their views, rather than the other way round.

[Dirk Gently]

You just made that up.

Anyway, that wouldn't really be a fact.

Really? Try telling someone who believes the Bible as fact that it isn't.
My local Priest believes that Jesus was the son of God as fact.
I, on the other hand, do not. Fact!

[Jeff]

Really? Try telling someone who believes the Bible as fact that it isn't.
My local Priest believes that Jesus was the son of God as fact.
I, on the other hand, do not. Fact!

I don't know.. while your local Priest may believe that 'Jesus was the Son of God' is true, that doesn't mean he would argue it as a scientific fact. Indeed, it would be hard to be saved by 'Faith Alone', if you were operating on fact rather than beliefs. (Though feel free to visit your Priest for further discussion if you wish )

At any rate that would be an example of someone being wrong. It wouldn't make an 'opinionated fact' a real type of fact. (And I won't be swayed from that belief )

[Dirk Gently]

You mean you won't be swayed from that fact?

fact – noun
1. Something that actually exists; reality; truth.
2. Something known to exist or to have happened.
3. A truth known by actual experience or observation; something known to be true.
4. Something said to be true or supposed to have happened.

[Jeff]

You mean you won't be swayed from that fact?

Well, since what you are terming 'opinionated fact' seems to be what everyone else in the world calls a 'belief', it should hardly matter to you, eh?

[Si Hunt]

I didn't expect someone to come barging in, claiming all that is said here is a load of excrement and can never be proven.

I didn't mean to imply that everything said here was a load of excrement. Just everything not said by me.

Si.

[Jeff]

I didn't mean to imply that everything said here was a load of excrement. Just everything not said by me.

Si.

Can I use that as my signature?

[Jeff]

If I may refer you to the title of the thread: "I just had another CRAZY thought.

Be careful though... you know there's a place where they put people who have too many of those.

[Si Hunt]

Frinton-on-sea?

Si.

[shada pavlova]

i've been to worse places.