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8th Jul 2008, 9:37 PM #1
So Will The Next Doctor Be The Twelfth?
Thinking about it, even if some of the Doctors regenerative energy in "Journey's End" was deflected to the severed hand, it all still got used up. Surely that means he's used up a regeneration?
So will this be addressed when Tennant's successor leaves? Surely now he only has twelve regenerations, since one of them has been used up. In a way, Rose's blue-suited shag IS the eleventh Doctor. Isn't he?
Si.
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8th Jul 2008, 9:47 PM #2
Oh Si, you fan!!
FWIW I would say no, he's still the tenth Doctor - just as Pertwee used to lapse into deathlike comas from time to time, but was still the third Doctor, I would still count the Tennant version as number ten. He clearly DIDN'T regenerate.
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8th Jul 2008, 10:14 PM #3
I'm with Andrew even if I see the truth in what Si says. It's an issue that the BBC can easily side step & write around. As I believe you said yourself, Si, about only having 12 regenerations.
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8th Jul 2008, 11:29 PM #4
Indeed, my point wasn't that it can't be written around. But the Doctor did actually state that the energy of one regeneration had been used up - enough to heal himself, the rest into the hand. He didn't RECLAIM the remainder, or hold it back, it was lost. So surely the Doctor has lost a regeneration. The "side step" will have to be one regeneration sooner now. Or will the BBC forget about it and cause a continuity gaff?
Si.
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8th Jul 2008, 11:37 PM #5
So what number is Doctor Donna, then...?
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9th Jul 2008, 7:23 AM #6
Bloomin' Robert Holmes, wrecking our show with his crazy dozen regenerations theory!!!
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9th Jul 2008, 8:59 AM #7
If I may reference the short story "The Touch of the Nurazh", in that, the Third Doctor was posessed by an alien entity which tried to kill him, resulting in him almost becoming Tom Baker two years early, but the energy of the regeneration killed the alien, so the Third Doctor simply reverted back.
It would seem like regeneration is like an elastic band. As the change progresses, the elastic band is pulled tighter and tighter, until it finally snaps and the process is complete. HOWEVER, if the process is interrupted or aborted before the elastic band has snapped, it will return to its natural, un-stretched state.
I think that clears everything up.
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9th Jul 2008, 10:37 AM #8
Doesn't that mean that the Doctor could feasibly cut off a selection of limbs next time he regenerates, then every time he dies after that, simply direct the energy into one of his limbs and live forever?
Si.
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9th Jul 2008, 11:17 AM #9
That sounds like a plan/exploit that roleplayers would go for (were DW a RPG) Si!
"Yeah I'm gonna die, so I'll cut my hand off and store it in this pickled onion jar next to the bed..."Creator of Doctor WHeasel and sometime political radical
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9th Jul 2008, 11:17 AM #10
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9th Jul 2008, 11:19 AM #11
I wouldn't be surprised if it actually WAS in the back of his mind when he said it.
Si.
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9th Jul 2008, 11:21 AM #12
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9th Jul 2008, 12:26 PM #13
That would be a pretty gruesome regeneration scene. Not to mention a less then classic pre-regenration speech.
"I'm regenerating. Pass the hacksaw!"
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9th Jul 2008, 12:53 PM #14Doesn't that mean that the Doctor could feasibly cut off a selection of limbs next time he regenerates, then every time he dies after that, simply direct the energy into one of his limbs and live forever?Pity. I have no understanding of the word. It is not registered in my vocabulary bank. EXTERMINATE!
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9th Jul 2008, 1:14 PM #15
No, if he's within the first 15 hours vof his regeneration cycle, he can grow back whatever he cuts off and keep it somewhere.
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9th Jul 2008, 1:27 PM #16
The new Doctors opening gambit to his next companion could be to whip out a selection of spare willy's he cut off when he'd just regenerated.
Si.
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9th Jul 2008, 2:12 PM #17
In that case, surely the new companion would have to be called Nilly?
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9th Jul 2008, 4:52 PM #18
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11th Jul 2008, 8:44 AM #19
Yeah, but they ALL GROW BACK.
that's the POINT.
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11th Jul 2008, 9:04 AM #20
Yes, I was wondering why nobody got that.
But depending on how long the residual regeneration energy lasted, you might have to hack away quite quickly. And you'd be in shctuck if you hacked off both your feet and an ear before realising the effect had worn off.
Si.
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11th Jul 2008, 9:59 AM #21Yeah, but they ALL GROW BACK.
If he's directing that into body parts that he's lopped off, then he's not going to have energy to grow back anything he cuts off!
So if he did that trick with the half-regeneration then he'd have no power to grow back a body part afterwards.
At least, that's the way it seems to me.Pity. I have no understanding of the word. It is not registered in my vocabulary bank. EXTERMINATE!
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11th Jul 2008, 12:39 PM #22
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11th Jul 2008, 12:48 PM #23
15 hours? I haven't tried it myself!
Pity. I have no understanding of the word. It is not registered in my vocabulary bank. EXTERMINATE!
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31st Jul 2008, 4:56 PM #24
Jesus. RTD should be ashamed of himself for introducing such a bizarre point of discussion into fandom. The "how to have infinite regenerations by carrying around a hacked-off* body part" debate. It's quite a ridiculous bit of ret-conning that does strongly suggest that any Timelord could, the first time they regenerate, hack off a hand within 15 hours and then effectively live forever by spewing extra energy into a severed hand every time he tries to regenerate. Not only is this silly because it clearly never seemed to occur to ANY Timelord before in the history of the show, indluding the Doctor, but it's also the most hideously, hideously un-aesthetic idea to ever come out of the series. Or just about any series
*not as in "annoyed" of course.
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31st Jul 2008, 5:01 PM #25
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