Davros - a theory

[WhiteCrow]

Something we discussed at a recent get-together.

In Genesis of the Daleks, it's mentioned that Davros has concluded that there is no life anywhere but on Skaro. And Davros is NEVER WRONG.

However the Daleks, his children have a mission not to dominate, but to remove all forms of life but Dalek life.

Are the Daleks then trying to rewrite history and make the Universe in Davros's image, ie with no life anywhere in the Universe but Skaro/Dalek life?

[Zbigniev Hamson]

Well, it's an interesting idea, but I thought he said specifically that he wants them to survive, and that they can only do this by becoming the dominant form of life and subjigating all others. As far as I recall, actually killing off every other form of life totally was only their goal in the last two recent episodes.

[Lord President]

Careful, this thread could turn into a religious battle royale! ;-)

[Andrew Curnow]

actually killing off every other form of life totally was only their goal in the last two recent episodes

Explicity at least. Inevitably if you go around exterminating everybody then ultimately your goal must be to wipe out EVERYONE, but I don't think they've ever been as upfront about it before!!

On a similar 'Davrosy ponderings' theme - watching Genesis part 3 this morning I notice that Davros refers to himself having been at work in the bunker for 50 years. Clearly very few of the others in the bunker are of that age, so I was wondering whether the original thinking behind Davros' wizened appearance is that he was ancient, and that his chair, life support system, etc were designed by him to prolong his life. I know the BFs, etc have tended to go with the 'hideously wounded in a bomb attack' theory (and I think it's even mentioned in passing in the Target of Genesis) but does anybody know what the makers of the TV episode had in mind?

[Zbigniev Hamson]

Explicity at least. Inevitably if you go around exterminating everybody then ultimately your goal must be to wipe out EVERYONE, but I don't think they've ever been as upfront about it before!!

Well to me it always seemed they went around enslaving people more than exterminating them. Well... they did a lot of exterminating too obviously.

[Si Hunt]

I think everyone else's opinion is wrong apart from mine.

Si.

[Dirk Gently]

Well my opinion is that Si Hunt is right.

[SiHart]

I think everyone else's opinion is wrong apart from mine.

Then either he is wrong or you are lying... and Si Hunt is never wrong anything.

Si xx

[Dirk Gently]

I'm not lying, honest guv!

[Si Hunt]

I've just decided I'm being an archetypical Doctor Who ming mong today.

Later I shall browbeat 2-Entertain over a missing subtitle, read "The Universal Databank" while listening to Malcolm Clarke and then write a four-page fan fiction epic explaining away a minor plot inconsistency in "The Claws of Axos".

Si.

[SiHart]

"He really must be exceptional, even I am occasionally wrong about somethings... Who is this Davros?"

Si xx

[Larry]

Are the Daleks then trying to rewrite history and make the Universe in Davros's image, ie with no life anywhere in the Universe but Skaro/Dalek life?

but that theory kind of falls down when you consider Davros, was not in charge of the Daleks, surely if they were going to make the Universe in any bodys image it would be that of the Supreme Dalek.

[SiHart]

I hate the Ming-Mong phrase. It's nasty.

Si xx

[Si Hunt]

I didn't invent it, I only borrowed it.

Si.

[SiHart]

I know. I wasn't haven't a go, it's just not something I'm very comfortable about using as deregotary word against certain elements of fandom.

Si xx

[Si Hunt]

I'd never heard it before and for some reason it made me laugh! It shall henceforth not be used in polite company.

Si.

[Simon R]

A quick google shows that RTD used it in an interview recently but it would appear to be a phrase that's been used for other Sci-fi fans before Who. I thought it was to do with Victoria Wood's "but Doctor what about the ming-mongs" sketch with Jim Broadbent.