Thread: Episode 9: Random Shoes
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14th Dec 2006, 9:49 AM #26Like L&M it was about "yer ordinary bloke" harassing the lead characters (who wern't in it much), having an experience, and concluding that life is great so appreciate the "chips and loft insulation".
It wasn't satisfying as a mystery, because all the clues led to nothing. It really promised (to me) to be an amazing murder mystery, with the stuff about the alien bidder and the Dagon eye really tantalising. The idea that all that was nonsense and you should worry about real life came as a limp slap at the face that just annoyed me. The 'Message' of Love & Monsters could be interpreted in a few ways, here it's force fed that we have to celebrate loft insulation. How random! Sheez.
It was an episode without any sense of threat, there was nothing at stake. Although it had some good moments and ideas, the relentless pounding of trying to be deep and philisophical in the tritest possible way made my stomach churn.
"Oooooo Danny boy!"Pity. I have no understanding of the word. It is not registered in my vocabulary bank. EXTERMINATE!
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14th Dec 2006, 4:44 PM #27
I suspect a lot of things changed after the cybermen attacked Earth. They brushed off the Sycorax as some kind of hoax, but I think the people of Earth, the ordinary guy we don't usually get to see, knows more now. Remember that the freaky alient telepath girl told Tosh that there were a lot of internet geeks talking about Torchwood - I suspect Eugene was one of them.
And we really don't need the opening narration about Torchwood every week.Why build an engine when you have a perfectly good whale?
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14th Dec 2006, 4:48 PM #28
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14th Dec 2006, 5:09 PM #29
I suspect a lot of things changed after the cybermen attacked Earth. They brushed off the Sycorax as some kind of hoax, but I think the people of Earth, the ordinary guy we don't usually get to see, knows more now.
I must admit I hadn't thought about that. So Gwen and her police force colleagues must have just been really thick then. Jack mentioned the Cybermen in the pub with Gwen in the opening episode, and she said Rhys thought it was all some kind of terrorism, with psychotropic drugs or somesuch.
Actualy, I've just thought of something. Why did Jack tell Gwen all about Torchwood before giving her amnesia? Why not just give it to her as soon as she entered the base? Was he doing it deliberately to get her into Torchwood? If not it seems a bit clumsy and daft, especially as they know that sometimes the amnesia can be broken.
Remember that the freaky alient telepath girl told Tosh that there were a lot of internet geeks talking about Torchwood - I suspect Eugene was one of them.
True. very true.
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14th Dec 2006, 5:54 PM #30
The opening is only about 30 seconds long, and re-stating the series ethos never did "The A-Team", "Incredible Hulk", "Knight Rider" etc. any harm. I quite like it.
Si.
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14th Dec 2006, 9:18 PM #31the "shoes" photos were because in the heat of the struggle over the Eye, he accidentally took a volley of photos capturing his friends shoes. The photos didn't mean anything, hence the episode title - "Random Shoes".
As for the episode title - according to the Radio Times for the BBC2 showing (there is no episode title for any of the digital showings) it's Invisible Eugene - which I noticed Wayne using in the Rate Torchwood thread. Though the bbc.co.uk Torchwood website does refer to "Random Shoes". So which is right?!
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14th Dec 2006, 9:28 PM #32
Don't we get an episode title on the BBC Three debut? I'm sure we do!
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14th Dec 2006, 9:40 PM #33Trudi G Guest
I did shed a little tear at the end. I'm soft like that!
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15th Dec 2006, 1:28 AM #34
I fell asleep before it started...
and have yet to wake up.
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15th Dec 2006, 7:53 AM #35
Although I really came away from the episode feeling very disappointed, and even surprised, I'm very pleased that so many people liked this one.
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15th Dec 2006, 9:05 AM #36
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15th Dec 2006, 9:07 AM #37
I think we should call it either "Edge of the Random Shoes", "Beyond the Invisible Eugene" or "The Mutants".
Si.
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15th Dec 2006, 9:19 AM #38
Random Crap.
Ant x
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15th Dec 2006, 12:16 PM #39
Not watched it all yet but I did fins myself welling up.
And Antony and the Johnsons! Enough said.
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15th Dec 2006, 2:20 PM #40
I thought it was a very strong and emotional episode. It was very much from the mould of Love and Monsters except this was good and L&M was crap!
I’m being extremely clever up here and there’s no one to stand around looking impressed! What’s the point in having you all?
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16th Dec 2006, 5:34 PM #41
I found myself quite enjoying this one after not being especially enamoured of the start.
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20th Dec 2006, 11:37 AM #42
I thought it was ok. It just didn't really grab me in anyway.
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20th Dec 2006, 2:57 PM #43Dave Lewis Guest
I appear to be a week behind everybody else with Torchwood... it's all to do with videos and stuff. But I've now finally seen Random Shoes, and once again, it was a slow starting episode. However, after about fifteen minutes, I was starting to consider it a poor man's Love And Monsters that didn't seem to fit into its slot within the series - nothing to indicate Gwen and Owen's relationship whatsoever; but then there's nothing to say that it had to be taking place immediately after They Keep On Killing Susie. But anyway, after about thirty minutes, I realised I was engrossed in what was happening, and to be honest, by the end, I must have had a bit of dust in my eye or something... it had a genuinely moving and uplifting ending, with a positive message about the moments of joy and excitement to find in the ordinariness of everyday life.
There were weak points about Random Shoes I have to admit, and it certainly wasn't the best episode yet... but after such a moving ending (from 'Danny Boy' right through to the very end) I can't find it in my heart to criticise it too much.
Last edited by Dave Lewis; 20th Dec 2006 at 3:05 PM. Reason: Because Gwen was so very pretty in this episode...
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7th Jul 2007, 8:46 PM #44
Oh dear - after such promise of good things to come with TKKS, its a horrible slip back into mushy melodrama. Why is it that these "narrated" episodes just come across so bleugh. The way these losers seem to have such a gift of poetic elegance with their commentary completely clashes with their actual characters and how they're portrayed. Its almost like someone else is writing their words for them
No more thank you.Bazinga !
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