Dalek chronology?

[Anthony Williams]

I've been doing some thinking since I finished my essay earlier, and I had the thought of "what WAS the chronological order of the Dalek stories from THEIR timeline"?

now, feel free to contradict me, as this is likely to be easily contested, but here's my theory:

Genesis of the Daleks
The Daleks
The Dalek Invasion of Earth
Power of the Daleks
Day of the Daleks
Planet of the Daleks
Death to the Daleks
Destiny of the Daleks
Evil of the Daleks (invalidated by events of Genesis of the Daleks)
Resurrection of the Daleks
Revelation of the Daleks
The Chase
The Daleks' Masterplan
Remembrance of the Daleks (invalidated by events of the time war)
Dalek
Bad Wolf/Parting of the Ways
Doomsday

any better suggestions?

Ant x

[Si Hunt]

"Genesis of the Daleks" and "The Daleks" are surely alternate versions of the same history - originally the Daleks were called the Dals, and evolved into Daleks, then the Doctor went back and changed things in "Genesis", and their creator survived whereas he presumably didn't previously, leading to the Davros timeline.

Si.

[Pip Madeley]

I get a headache when I try and make sense of these things.

[Rob McCow]

No no no! The Daleks is the very final end of the Daleks, billions of years in the future at the end of time.

After The Chase, the Daleks start re-writing their history anyway. So I think it would go more like this:

CHRONOLOGY A:
Genesis of the Daleks (How it all began)
The Dalek Invasion of Earth (Daleks ascendant)
Planet of the Daleks
Death to the Daleks
Destiny of the Daleks (Movellan war, Daleks in decline)
Resurrection of the Daleks (Crude time corridor in use)
Revelation of the Daleks
Davros
The Juggernauts
The Daleks' Masterplan (Daleks develop crude time-travel, have to use other races to gain power)

TIME TRAVEL PERFECTED

CHRONOLGY B2:
Day of The Daleks (Never even happened!)

CHRONOLOGY B3:
Jubilee

CHRONOLOGY B:
The Genocide Machine
The Mutant Phaaaaaaaaaase!
The Apocalypse Element
Time of The Daleks (Still using mirrors!)
Evil of the Daleks (This would be the first thing they'd do, having been defeated by humanity so many times)
Remembrance of the Daleks (invalidated by events of the time war)

CHRONOLOGY C:
The Chase (The Daleks attempt to kill the Doctor, knowing that he would be their greatest threat in the time war)
Bad Wolf/The Empty Child
Doomsday
Dalek
Power of the Daleks (Time war fugitives?)
The Daleks (The Final End!)

Ask me about my Time War theory! I dare you

[SiHart]

Steve you have got to dare to tell us your Time War theory.

Si xx

[Pip Madeley]

Why are you two sat on two computers in the same house?

[SiHart]

You don't think we actually talk to each other do you? we communicate by MSN messenger.

We have 2 PCs so that Steve can play games and I xan write reviews of Blakes 7.

Anyway, The Daleks and their timeline thingy.

Si xx

[Pip Madeley]

You don't think we actually talk to each other do you?

Me & Trudi joked the other day that if we won the lottery we'd probably have two PCs, one on each side of the big house we'd buy, and chat on MSN

[Raston]

I go with this one.

Early History
Genesis of the Daleks
The Daleks
The Dalek Invasion of Earth


Early Time Technology!

Time of The Daleks
Evil of the Daleks

Never Happened! Due to Mistakes with early Technology

Day of The Daleks
Jubilee
The Mutant Phaaaaaaaaaase!

Full Time Technology-events lead up to time war/end of Time War

The Chase
The Daleks' Masterplan
Bad Wolf/The Empty Child
Dalek
Doomsday



Post Time War!

Death to the Daleks
The Genocide Machine
Planet of the Daleks
The Apocalypse Element (daleks seek revenge on gallifrey)


Post Dalek Empire/ Dalek War Era

Destiny of the Daleks
Resurrection of the Daleks
Revelation of the Daleks
Davros
The Juggernaughts
Remembrance of the Daleks
Terror Firma

Future Rise of the Daleks
Dalek Empire 3
Power of the Daleks

[Jonno]

Two of you now have referred to Bad Wolf/The Empty Child.

Is this the one where the Daleks ask Davros "Are you my Mummy?"

[SiHart]

Hang on! How can the Daleks be seeking revenge on Gallifrey AFTER the Time War. Surely from what we know about The Time War, Gallifrey was destroyed during it?

And it's surely, the Emperor went into hiding AFTER the Time War, so the Bad Wolf/ Parting of the Ways happens after the Time War is over. I think you're a bit confused old chap!

Si xx

[Anthony Williams]

Hang on! How can the Daleks be seeking revenge on Gallifrey AFTER the Time War. Surely from what we know about The Time War, Gallifrey was destroyed during it?

and further to that, RTD has said that The Apocalypse Element was one of the first events in the time war!

Ant x

[Si Hunt]

Are you sure about that Ant? I can't imagine RTD discussing how the new series links in with Big Finish somehow!

I'm highly suspicious about Mr McCow's assertion that "Daleks Invasion of Earth" follows "Genesis" you know!

Si.

[Anthony Williams]

Are you sure about that Ant? I can't imagine RTD discussing how the new series links in with Big Finish somehow!

positive! I can't remember where I read it, but it was definitely said at some point by RTD!

Ant x

[SiHart]

It was in last year's Doctor Who Annual I believe or the Monsters and Villains book.

Si xx

[Rob McCow]

And don't forget Tennant saying "I was there at the fall of Archetryx". RTD is definetly a fan of the early Big Finishes, we've had nods to Jubilee, Spare Parts and The One Doctor (perhaps).

I'm highly suspicious about Mr McCow's assertion that "Daleks Invasion of Earth" follows "Genesis" you know!

Ah....

Genesis of The Daleks
(Years pass. Everyone on Skaro turns blue. Yarvelling 'pretends' to invent the Daleks, but actually finds them in a bunker. All the stuff with Zeg, the X3 and Dalek Chronicle cartoons. The Daleks head north-by northeast at the sun to find Earth)
The Dalek Invasion of Earth.

[Si Hunt]

But where does the Walls Sky Ray advert fit in?

And what about the poo?

Si.

[Jason Thompson]

And don't forget Tennant saying "I was there at the fall of Archetryx".

When did he say that? In Doomsday he said he was there at the fall of Arcadia. Did he ever mention Archetryx?

[Pip Madeley]

Two of you now have referred to Bad Wolf/The Empty Child.

Is this the one where the Daleks ask Davros "Are you my Mummy?"

Answer Jonno!

[Wayne]

It was in last year's Doctor Who Annual I believe or the Monsters and Villains book.

I read that as: "I was in last year's Doctor Who Annual I believe or the Monsters and Villains book".

[SiHart]

My ego isn't that out of control yet Wayne!

Si xx

[Raston]

Yes, but as we know from the new series already- Time is in flux-and hence anything that has happened can unhappen. I am working on the basis that the timelords wont remain dead, because they can't. We know from too many doctor who stories that they are too important to everything for that to be the case.

If there can be millions of Daleks in 2006, but no one knows a Dalek in 2012 and it to be the last dalek despite 500,000 daleks in the year 200,000.

I think we can assume that the time war by its very nature happened but also never happened. We have seen often enough in who that what is done is often undone and never happened.

'I watched them Burn' that is not the same as 'I watch them erased from history' therefore they were not destoryed in the temporal sense.

[Pip Madeley]

So what has the Empty Child got to do with the Daleks?

[Perry Vale]

Where do you place the Cushing movies?

[Raston]

The simple answer is that i just copied and pasted Robs so i didn't have to type them out again.

Besides parting of the Ways sucked, and Em,pty Child did not, so it made sense to keep the beter story, with its dalek art work, it counts!

the Cushing movies are unbound stories, mind you probably so is the new series (no regeneration), Oh wait maybe post wargames is unbound as well? oh dear its all a mess now.