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14th Dec 2006, 9:02 PM #1
Dalek chronology?
I've been doing some thinking since I finished my essay earlier, and I had the thought of "what WAS the chronological order of the Dalek stories from THEIR timeline"?
now, feel free to contradict me, as this is likely to be easily contested, but here's my theory:
Genesis of the Daleks
The Daleks
The Dalek Invasion of Earth
Power of the Daleks
Day of the Daleks
Planet of the Daleks
Death to the Daleks
Destiny of the Daleks
Evil of the Daleks (invalidated by events of Genesis of the Daleks)
Resurrection of the Daleks
Revelation of the Daleks
The Chase
The Daleks' Masterplan
Remembrance of the Daleks (invalidated by events of the time war)
Dalek
Bad Wolf/Parting of the Ways
Doomsday
any better suggestions?
Ant x
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14th Dec 2006, 9:54 PM #2
"Genesis of the Daleks" and "The Daleks" are surely alternate versions of the same history - originally the Daleks were called the Dals, and evolved into Daleks, then the Doctor went back and changed things in "Genesis", and their creator survived whereas he presumably didn't previously, leading to the Davros timeline.
Si.
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14th Dec 2006, 10:00 PM #3Pip Madeley Guest
I get a headache when I try and make sense of these things.
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14th Dec 2006, 10:26 PM #4
No no no! The Daleks is the very final end of the Daleks, billions of years in the future at the end of time.
After The Chase, the Daleks start re-writing their history anyway. So I think it would go more like this:
CHRONOLOGY A:
Genesis of the Daleks (How it all began)
The Dalek Invasion of Earth (Daleks ascendant)
Planet of the Daleks
Death to the Daleks
Destiny of the Daleks (Movellan war, Daleks in decline)
Resurrection of the Daleks (Crude time corridor in use)
Revelation of the Daleks
Davros
The Juggernauts
The Daleks' Masterplan (Daleks develop crude time-travel, have to use other races to gain power)
TIME TRAVEL PERFECTED
CHRONOLGY B2:
Day of The Daleks (Never even happened!)
CHRONOLOGY B3:
Jubilee
CHRONOLOGY B:
The Genocide Machine
The Mutant Phaaaaaaaaaase!
The Apocalypse Element
Time of The Daleks (Still using mirrors!)
Evil of the Daleks (This would be the first thing they'd do, having been defeated by humanity so many times)
Remembrance of the Daleks (invalidated by events of the time war)
CHRONOLOGY C:
The Chase (The Daleks attempt to kill the Doctor, knowing that he would be their greatest threat in the time war)
Bad Wolf/The Empty Child
Doomsday
Dalek
Power of the Daleks (Time war fugitives?)
The Daleks (The Final End!)
Ask me about my Time War theory! I dare youPity. I have no understanding of the word. It is not registered in my vocabulary bank. EXTERMINATE!
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14th Dec 2006, 10:29 PM #5
Steve you have got to dare to tell us your Time War theory.
Si xx
I've just got my handcuffs and my truncheon and that's enough.
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14th Dec 2006, 10:47 PM #6
I go with this one.
Early History
Genesis of the Daleks
The Daleks
The Dalek Invasion of Earth
Early Time Technology!
Time of The Daleks
Evil of the Daleks
Never Happened! Due to Mistakes with early Technology
Day of The Daleks
Jubilee
The Mutant Phaaaaaaaaaase!
Full Time Technology-events lead up to time war/end of Time War
The Chase
The Daleks' Masterplan
Bad Wolf/The Empty Child
Dalek
Doomsday
Post Time War!
Death to the Daleks
The Genocide Machine
Planet of the Daleks
The Apocalypse Element (daleks seek revenge on gallifrey)
Post Dalek Empire/ Dalek War Era
Destiny of the Daleks
Resurrection of the Daleks
Revelation of the Daleks
Davros
The Juggernaughts
Remembrance of the Daleks
Terror Firma
Future Rise of the Daleks
Dalek Empire 3
Power of the Daleks
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14th Dec 2006, 11:07 PM #7
Two of you now have referred to Bad Wolf/The Empty Child.
Is this the one where the Daleks ask Davros "Are you my Mummy?"
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15th Dec 2006, 7:39 AM #8
Hang on! How can the Daleks be seeking revenge on Gallifrey AFTER the Time War. Surely from what we know about The Time War, Gallifrey was destroyed during it?
And it's surely, the Emperor went into hiding AFTER the Time War, so the Bad Wolf/ Parting of the Ways happens after the Time War is over. I think you're a bit confused old chap!
Si xx
I've just got my handcuffs and my truncheon and that's enough.
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15th Dec 2006, 12:05 PM #9Pip Madeley Guest
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16th Dec 2006, 5:27 PM #10
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14th Dec 2006, 10:36 PM #11Pip Madeley Guest
Why are you two sat on two computers in the same house?
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14th Dec 2006, 10:41 PM #12
You don't think we actually talk to each other do you? we communicate by MSN messenger.
We have 2 PCs so that Steve can play games and I xan write reviews of Blakes 7.
Anyway, The Daleks and their timeline thingy.
Si xx
I've just got my handcuffs and my truncheon and that's enough.
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14th Dec 2006, 10:44 PM #13Pip Madeley Guest
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15th Dec 2006, 8:32 AM #14
Are you sure about that Ant? I can't imagine RTD discussing how the new series links in with Big Finish somehow!
I'm highly suspicious about Mr McCow's assertion that "Daleks Invasion of Earth" follows "Genesis" you know!
Si.
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15th Dec 2006, 8:41 AM #15
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15th Dec 2006, 9:22 AM #16
It was in last year's Doctor Who Annual I believe or the Monsters and Villains book.
Si xx
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15th Dec 2006, 9:33 AM #17
And don't forget Tennant saying "I was there at the fall of Archetryx". RTD is definetly a fan of the early Big Finishes, we've had nods to Jubilee, Spare Parts and The One Doctor (perhaps).
I'm highly suspicious about Mr McCow's assertion that "Daleks Invasion of Earth" follows "Genesis" you know!
Genesis of The Daleks
(Years pass. Everyone on Skaro turns blue. Yarvelling 'pretends' to invent the Daleks, but actually finds them in a bunker. All the stuff with Zeg, the X3 and Dalek Chronicle cartoons. The Daleks head north-by northeast at the sun to find Earth)
The Dalek Invasion of Earth.Pity. I have no understanding of the word. It is not registered in my vocabulary bank. EXTERMINATE!
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15th Dec 2006, 12:24 PM #18Wayne Guest
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15th Dec 2006, 12:44 PM #19
My ego isn't that out of control yet Wayne!
Si xx
I've just got my handcuffs and my truncheon and that's enough.
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15th Dec 2006, 1:08 PM #20
Where do you place the Cushing movies?
“If my sons did not want wars, there would be none.” - Gutle Schnaper Rothschild
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15th Dec 2006, 9:36 AM #21
But where does the Walls Sky Ray advert fit in?
And what about the poo?
Si.
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15th Dec 2006, 10:44 AM #22
And don't forget Tennant saying "I was there at the fall of Archetryx".
When did he say that? In Doomsday he said he was there at the fall of Arcadia. Did he ever mention Archetryx?
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16th Dec 2006, 3:43 PM #23
That's what I was about to say.
As for the Time War. It clearly begins in 'Genesis' when the Time Lords actively take a stand against the potential future of the Daleks. We see the Daleks fighting back in 'Ressurection' when they create duplicates of the Doctor and Co to assisinate the High Council. And further, when the Doctor wipes out Skaro in 'Remembrance'.I am out there... somewhere.
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16th Dec 2006, 3:46 PM #24
Don't forget that the Time Lords handily steer the Doctor and TARDIS to Spiridon. The Dalek Conquests CD, which was most enjoyable, also hypothesises that the Time Lords really started to be concerned about the Daleks after the events of Day and all the time travel shenanigans going on there (thus leading nicely in that nudge to Spiridon).
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16th Dec 2006, 3:50 PM #25
'The Time Lords sent you to this planet and.... oh my god, Daleks! What are they doing here? Oh yes, that's right, when we left the Ogron world you set the TARDIS to follow the Daleks here. Hmm. Hang on...'
God knows how they cocked that up between episodes.
But, yes, the Time Lords sending the Doctor to Spiridon could, indeed, be part of the Time War.I am out there... somewhere.
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