The Next Doctor: Them Victorian Cliches!

[WhiteCrow]

Just finished watching the Next Doctor again.

I did enjoy it but I was trying to think and count all them Victorian cliches which pop up.

* Do all Victorian adventures have to happen at winter/Christmas? I can't think of any Victorian tale which doesn't involve Winter in some way. Was ot ever summer in those days?
* Little street urchin asked "what day is this"
* Crowds of workhouse kids.

[Llordllama]

Yeah I watched it (and then confidential which I'd taped on Xmas day but not had time to watch) again today. I think I enjoyed it more the 2nd time around.

But lord those urchins - please never again unless they all get exterminated/deleted/liquidated!

[WhiteCrow]

We had a chirpy Cockney in charge of the gas company.

We probably had lots of Victorian fog as well.

[shada pavlova]

Do all Victorian adventures have to happen at winter/Christmas? I can't think of any Victorian tale which doesn't involve Winter in some way.

Would you now like to rethink that statement?

[Rob McCow]

It was quite chilly in Talons - look at the fog on the Doctor's breath!

As for cliches:

* Prostitutes. You'd think every third woman was a whore in the 19th Century.
* Philanthropic men who are actually quite nasty. Hypocrites! You couldn't be any more 'Dickens' if you had a character (who everyone thought was dead) turn up alive and well three quarters of the way through.
* Victorian Steampunk.
* A mysterious un-named character having a secret meeting.
* An inheritance.
* A wedding.

Oh hang on, this is still Doctor Who, isn't it?

[Dirk Gently]

* Do all Victorian adventures have to happen at winter/Christmas? I can't think of any Victorian tale which doesn't involve Winter in some way. Was ot ever summer in those days?
* Little street urchin asked "what day is this"
* Crowds of workhouse kids.

Well those things are all missing from Tooth and Claw, which seeing as it has Queen Victoria in must be Victorian.

[Rob McCow]

which seeing as it has Queen Victoria in must be Victorian.

That's the ULTIMATE cliche!

[WhiteCrow]

Tooth and Claw, they sit down to a dinner part before being attacked, then take refuge in the library! Thats pretty cliched.

[Dirk Gently]

I was pointing out that the ones you listed were not in this particular Victorian story.
And which Victorian story do the people sit down to dinner & then take refuge in a library after being attacked other than TaC?

[SiHart]

They certainly didn't do that in Evil of the Daleks.

Si xx

[WhiteCrow]

And which Victorian story do the people sit down to dinner & then take refuge in a library after being attacked other than TaC?

It feels like a very cliched Victorian thing to do. This thread is meant to be a bit of fun about "stories in Victorian eras" in general - not just Who.

"If her majesty does not mind, luncheon will be served, we'll then retire to the library before the monstrous attack begins."

...........

Another cliche has to be correcting someone on their ettiquette before getting all William 1st on his ass.

"The correct form of address is 'Your Majesty'!"

[Dirk Gently]

..."stories in Victorian eras" in general - not just Who.

But this isn't the general board, it's the New Series Doctor Who board. So you'll have to forgive me if I make a perfectly obvious assumption that you are talking about New Series Doctor Who.

[WhiteCrow]

Its a general discussion based on a recent new Who. Kind of fits.

[Simon R]

They sit down for dinner in "Ghost Light".

If that helps!

I couldn't swear they actually ate it though.

"Mark of the Rani" manages to avoid being overly wintery. It's more autumnal.

[WhiteCrow]

"Mark of the Rani" manages to avoid being overly wintery. It's more autumnal.

I'm pretty sure though "Mark of the Rani" is a Georgian adventure, not a Victorian one!

[shada pavlova]

And they do have dinner in the Talons of Weng-Chiang!

[WhiteCrow]

It's true - it seems the Doctor only accepts invitations to dinner when he's in the Victorian era.

It's not like him and Rose have sat down for a meal at the Burger King, when all of a sudden, there's an outbreak of zombie aliens.

[SiHart]

Aside from when he has Christmas dinner with the Tylers in The Christmas Invasion of course.

Si xx

[WhiteCrow]

Aside from when he has Christmas dinner with the Tylers in The Christmas Invasion of course.

Like Jackie would have given him a choice ...

Actually I miss that - the idea the Doctor could best anyone in the galaxy ... except Jackie.

[Dirk Gently]

It's true - it seems the Doctor only accepts invitations to dinner when he's in the Victorian era.

Except for when he's in a restaurant in Cardiff.

[WhiteCrow]

Except for when he's in a restaurant in Cardiff.

Did he eat there though (I can't remember)? Or did the Slitheen woman eat there, whilst the moody Mancunian just drank tap water and nibbled on breadsticks, then pull his face when she suggested they split the bill?