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10th Jan 2009, 10:51 AM #1
Most Awful New Series Moments
And, to round off from the other thread....
What have been the moments in Doctor Who that have made you gnash your teeth, rent your garments and wail in agony? (in a bad way).
For me the single worst moment in the new series is something that seemed quite innocuous at the time. It's from the episode 'The Doctor's Daughter' and it's the bit where Grinning Jenny encounters a laser trap. The Doctor and Donna sensibly turn the trap off and walk through calmly, but that's not good enough for Jenny. No, she has to do a series of exciting gymnastic backflips to get through the lasers!
Talk about asking the viewers to suspend their disbelief. Backflips are cool, lasers are cool, they did it in a Britney Spears video. So why not have it in Doctor Who?
Well, blatantly because if you did do a series of backflips through the lasers, not only would you have very little control over where your body was going, you'd also be guaranteed to hit every single bloody laser beam. The only thing that should have made it to the end of the tunnel should have been a spray of guts and blood.
I suppose Jenny was a super alien soldier, but it's an awful thing to include just for the sake of it. Grrr!Pity. I have no understanding of the word. It is not registered in my vocabulary bank. EXTERMINATE!
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10th Jan 2009, 11:21 AM #2
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10th Jan 2009, 11:31 AM #3
My pet-hate bits would be:
- The fan-baiting bits of the early Moffatt scripts: the silly attempts to suggest the Doctor is a sexual being (the truth? It takes more maturity to accept a hero that DOESN'T need to have sex. Those people exist in life too), the odd banana obbsession, the cloying "dancing" metaphor
- The overly sentimental Eccleston moments, when the Doctor started saying "sorry" to corpses. Aaaaaaah. etc.
- "Oooooh you're so gaaaaay!". Cringeworthy!
- "Who ya gonna call? Ghostbusters!" ("Army of Ghosts")
- "I'm really glad I met you." (just odd as the Doctor has actually been quite aloof up to now)
- Roger Lloyd Pack completely getting it wrong for "Rise of the Cybermen". It's not often the new production team stuff up, and you'd THINK it would be possible with so many producers and script editors. But SOMEHOW IT HAPPENED. Completely the wrong performance. Were they all big "Only Fools and Horses" fans and no-one felt they could say anything?
- All that crap science at the end of "New Earth". I'm no Jason Thompson but even I can't suspend my disbelief enough to think that if you mix every medine together it will cure every disease! Just moronic and a severe underestimation of the audience's intelligence.
Si.
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10th Jan 2009, 1:22 PM #4
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Funnily enough, I know full well that there have been moments in the new series that I've cringed so much I felt like scratching my eyes out. But I can't actually think of many them off the top of my head. Maybe I just block out all the bits I don't like to be left with the perfect show! But a couple from series one:
-Mickey, dustbin, fake auton Mickey. I know Noel Clarke isn't really proud of his performance in the first few episodes, but even if he'd known the character inside out by the time he shot this section I don't think I'd have been impressed. It's just ill-concieved and looks crap. I can see what they were trying to do, but it's wrong!
-With the exception of Annette Badland who just about pulls it off somehow, the terrible attempts of the actors playing Slitheen hosts to show their characters explaining away their constant farting. It's so over the top it gets painful.
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10th Jan 2009, 1:29 PM #5Mickey, dustbin, fake auton Mickey. I know Noel Clarke isn't really proud of his performance in the first few episodes, but even if he'd known the character inside out by the time he shot this section I don't think I'd have been impressed. It's just ill-concieved and looks crap. I can see what they were trying to do, but it's wrong!
Si.
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10th Jan 2009, 2:25 PM #6
What gets me with that 'dustbin bit' is that Mickey touches the bin face on, so that his left hand is on his left but when he tries to pull away from the bin & turns his back on it his hands have swapped sides.
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10th Jan 2009, 4:15 PM #7
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Ones that come to mind include
- Rose's original leaving scene in Doomsday; does it ever stop?
- The Trinny/Susannah-bot segments of Bad Wolf/POTW, partly because I didn't know them at the time and didn't understand the joke; mostly because I do know them now, and wish I didn't still.
- Rose being jealous of Sarah Jane. Not neccessary.
- The Doctor's disposal of the Family of Blood. I like fantasy books, but this was a little too fantasy an ending for Who.
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10th Jan 2009, 5:36 PM #8
-The "I really love this" bit at the start of New Earth, just too much!
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10th Jan 2009, 6:49 PM #9What gets me with that 'dustbin bit' is that Mickey touches the bin face on, so that his left hand is on his left but when he tries to pull away from the bin & turns his back on it his hands have swapped sides.
Si.
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10th Jan 2009, 7:07 PM #10
"I've just snogged Madama De Pompedour!" is one of the worst moments in new Doctor Who.
(far worse than the so-called farting!)
Si xx
I've just got my handcuffs and my truncheon and that's enough.
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10th Jan 2009, 7:17 PM #11
It is, I agree. It's embarassing and it opens up a huge raft of questions. No matter how much Steven Moffat wants the Doctor to shag around to annoy supporters of the series he's making his living from (why does he want to do that again?) the fact is, he hasn't before. So the sudden development of a libido begs the question: has he before? If so, why have we never seen it? Where does he stand with this? Unfortunately because this scene is at odds with the previous 26 years of Doctor Who, the uncomfortable answer as characterised on screen by David Tennant is unfortunately "akin to a teenage boy that's just managed to wank off to Razzle for the very first time".
Si.
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10th Jan 2009, 7:20 PM #12
I agree with the dustbin scene in Rose, but I will also add "Tastes like chicken" from Love and Monsters.
The whole of Love and Monsters
"Do you mind not farting while I'm saving the world"I’m being extremely clever up here and there’s no one to stand around looking impressed! What’s the point in having you all?
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10th Jan 2009, 7:39 PM #13
The gurning.
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10th Jan 2009, 7:45 PM #14
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10th Jan 2009, 7:47 PM #15
The angry bit in The Idiot's Lantern is pretty bad.
Also, I'm not sure it comes under the heading of 'awful' but I really cringe at the "Hello Dad!" bit in The Doctor's Daughter.
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11th Jan 2009, 11:32 AM #16
I'd agree with that - I've always said it was a good idea to try some thing different but it's an episode that brings back memories of when Doctor Who reached it's lowest point during seasons 24 and 25 I have only ever watched it once at that was enough.
Bruno Langley - It takes some thing to be be an even a worse actor then Matthew Waterhouse but Langley was awful and his character annoying to the point of wanting to punch his lights out.
All the companions flying the TARDIS, and then all the back slapping and hugging each other just makes you want to throw up..
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11th Jan 2009, 11:38 AM #17his character annoying to the point of wanting to punch his lights out.
Si xx
I've just got my handcuffs and my truncheon and that's enough.
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11th Jan 2009, 11:44 AM #18
The single worst moment for me, off the top of my head, is the mindswap bit in new earth... that wasn't remotely clever farce. In fact, the whole flawed science in the water bourne v air bourne contagion in that episode is perhaps the worst example of lazy writing in the episodes I've watched.
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11th Jan 2009, 11:49 AM #19it's an episode that brings back memories of when Doctor Who reached it's lowest point during seasons 24 and 25
Si.
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11th Jan 2009, 11:49 AM #20WhiteCrow Guest
Paving slab girl.
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11th Jan 2009, 11:52 AM #21WhiteCrow Guest
The whole thing about "Well we've got an episode called the Doctor's Daughter, and she's going to be played by ... the Doctor's Daughter". Cheesy. RTD throws out that they have "high concept" for their story ideas.
The episode was kind of severely cheesy in parts. Felt like a set up for a spin off series ...
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11th Jan 2009, 12:16 PM #22
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11th Jan 2009, 12:19 PM #23
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11th Jan 2009, 1:41 PM #24just panto like entertainment..
Si.
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11th Jan 2009, 2:45 PM #25
I don't understand you people. I really like all the bits you've mentioned!
For every fail, there is an equal and opposite win.
...Oh, who am I kidding?
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