Incidental things you've never noticed in Doctor Who

[Andrew Curnow]

Are you sure they were tights, Si? I thought Susan said, in "The Sensorites" that the people of her world "are a lot like Earthmen, but at night the skin on our legs is purple".

[Simon R]

No one has ever noticed that Winston from EastEnders can be seen in the pub at the start (ish) of "Silver Nemesis".

I'm sure it's him!

[Paul Monk]

A couple of things from Logopolis that I never noticed before.

I'm sure that its a well known fan fact but I've only just noticed that in the regeneration scene Peter Davison has brown hair.
Also in the scene where the Doctor is on the Pharos Project telescope and its starting to tip over, there's a really rubbish freeze frame of the Master superimposed over the window!

Also as well as not running a very good maintenance schedule, Auntie Vanessa must be a dodgy driver, as her car has a huge dent in the drivers door. Rabbits!

[Nathan]

I'm sure that its a well known fan fact but I've only just noticed that in the regeneration scene Peter Davison has brown hair.

Lissa has a theory about this

Also in the scene where the Doctor is on the Pharos Project telescope and its starting to tip over, there's a really rubbish freeze frame of the Master superimposed over the window!

My, you really haven't been paying attention, have you?

Also as well as not running a very good maintenance schedule, Auntie Vanessa must be a dodgy driver, as her car has a huge dent in the drivers door. Rabbits!

I think it was deliberately specified to be a bit bashed up, firstly as it was needed to break down as part of the story, and secondly to make a comparison between cars and aeroplanes (as aeroplanes are then similarly held up against the Tardis later on).

[Paul Monk]

My, you really haven't been paying attention, have you?

What do you mean? Has someone mentioned it before?

I think it was deliberately specified to be a bit bashed up, firstly as it was needed to break down as part of the story, and secondly to make a comparison between cars and aeroplanes (as aeroplanes are then similarly held up against the Tardis later on).

That makes sense, its just I'd never noticed it before.

And I'd like to hear Lissa's theory.

[Ian Lethbridge-Stewart]

And I'd like to hear Lissa's theory.

Is the theory about Peter Davison being an imposter or something??

[Nathan]

What do you mean? Has someone mentioned it before?

Everytime somebody has watched it I thought

[Paul Monk]

Ah well! It must be really obvious then.

I never noticed it on the video so maybe its just clearer on the dvd.

[Rob McCow]

I never noticed it until I saw the DVD either.

It must be something to do with how high you have the brightness set up on your TV!

[Andrew Curnow]

I never noticed it in 1981, and had watched the video loads of times before I noticed it. Which is why it really, really bugs me when witty people on the RT site in particular, moan about how rubbishy it is, and the like. I'd be amazed if anybody spotted it in 1981, and really that's all you can judge it by.

[Dirk Gently]

I must be one of those whom you hate Andrew, I can't remember a time when I didn't notice it.

[Andrew Curnow]

Ah, but I'm sure you don't moan about it endlessly on the RT site, Tim! You're far too nice and sensible for that.

Did you really notice it the first time you saw the story though?

[Zbigniev Hamson]

I noticed it. But to pick that out of all the 'special' effects in the whole history of Doctor Who to moan about is bizarre.

[Andrew Curnow]

Even in "Logopolis" 4, I would have thought that model shot of the radio-telescope, which is clearly just a model and doesn't match the location at all, is a worse culprit.

[Nathan]

I have to admit that I still don't know what was going on this those model shots.

It always struck me as bizarre that we get that shite model Tardis and radio telescope when the prop was quite clearly on the location shoot anyway (shades of Spearhead). There is even what appears to be a nice shot of a radio telescope at the location (way back when it was often reported that it was shot at Jodrell bank).

However, it wasn't shot at Jodrell bank, meaning that the telescope that we see on film must surely be a foreground model. Looks stacks better than that model train diorama that they used in studio then.

What were they thinking?

[Pip Madeley]

I rather enjoy the "shite model Tardis and radio telescope" shot.
It reminds me of the TARDIS landing of Marinus.

[Dirk Gently]

Ah, but I'm sure you don't moan about it endlessly on the RT site, Tim! You're far too nice and sensible for that.

Did you really notice it the first time you saw the story though?

Yes I'm afraid so, the image of The Master is a, too large for the aperture & b, too bright for the scene IMO, he is also VERY still. It's always stood out to me, just like the Cyberman scene in The Five Doctors. That has always looked wrong & has only looked right in the DVD when they rearranged it, that now flows properly.

[Andrew Curnow]

like the Cyberman scene in The Five Doctors

Cyberman scene? Not sure what that refers to, Tim.

[Dirk Gently]

When Jon & Liz are being pursued by the Cybermen & trying to get passed the Andrew Hard...er I mean the Raston Warrior Robot. The battle on the VHS (original tx) is not in the right order & happens out of sequence. The DVD has this scene corrected & the order has been edited to make sense.

[Jonno]

But Liz (or to be precise, the phantom image of her) didn't encounter the Cybermen in the Tomb!

[Andrew Curnow]

Oh! I never noticed any errors on the original Five Doctors, but I'm sure you're right Tim.

[Dave Tudor]

Watching 'Remembrance Of The Daleks' with the commentary and production subtitles today, I realised that I'd never noticed just how many shots of modern day buildings there were throughout the story.

Still, not as big an oversight as Keff McCulloch's crap music.

[Andrew Curnow]

I have to admit that once our Nathan had pointed them out, you can't subsequently miss them, can you. They really are very obvious, especially in the cemetary scenes. Although the thing that always niggles me is 'Ace watching spaceship overhead' in part 4 and the Smiths' missing letterbox.

Still, I do like the story, honest!!

[Stuart Wallis]

The man who does the voice of Meglos in episode one of, er, Meglos, isn't credited on screen, or in any of the reference books I've looked in. Does anyone know who he is btw?

[SiHart]

Yes, I do. He's voiced by the person who plays the human.

Si xx