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1st May 2011, 5:31 PM #51
My brother said the same thing, as well as how the lightening power they posses takes a while for them to charge. And, essentially, they'll never have the power to influence people in power ever again.
... but still, just from my own personal taste, I can't envision pensioners in a home whacking at a Silent with their walkers and canes. It's almost comical.
Also, being that these aliens didn't have the sort of tech to get themselves OFF of Earth in the first place and the Doctor knows that... so I can see how he wants to foster a dangerous enviornment for The Silents to make them want to leave- but, the problem is, they don't possess the tech to actually do that...Last edited by FlyingBeastie; 1st May 2011 at 5:45 PM.
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1st May 2011, 5:34 PM #52
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1st May 2011, 5:41 PM #53
That was resolved-
People keep shooting this down, but I assert it's The Doctor from The Big Bang.The reason why people keep saying it's not him is because Amelia is sitting upright in Eleventh Hour and The Doctor finds her sleeping in The Big Bang.
This could easily be explained as a production fudge (i.e. Rory's badge says 1990, when the Atraxi are flying away the long shot shows the Doctor being burned by the TARDIS key in his pocket, but the next closeup shot of him shows he's just looking at the Atraxi flying away and then starts being burned by the TARDIS key)
Also, Silents have never been shown to run- I think it's cos their heads would fall off.
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1st May 2011, 5:54 PM #54
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1st May 2011, 5:56 PM #55
Again, a whole lot of assumptions and leaps of faith...
I'd assert that it isn't the Doctor as a) the timing is all wrong as you've just said. b) the shadow is clearly running, and the Doctor isn't shown to run when he goes back to the house. c) He also isn't shown to go anywhere near the kitchen when he goes back to the house.
Either way, it's clearly not resolved.
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1st May 2011, 6:00 PM #56
When exactly? Cos the moment Canton steps in the cube and The Doctor breaks the chains he hasn't "saved" River from her fall?
Throughout what time does The Doctor go into the TARDIS and get her if he's being monitored at all times?
Who cloaked the TARDIS? It was decloaked in the White House...
That whole part of the episode just makes no sense and it's a slap in the face to your audience if you're not going to bother explaining it.
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1st May 2011, 6:03 PM #57
If you slow it down, the shape looks a lot like Smith. And, again, a lot of things are being done for effect on this show now and I don't see why we'd ever go back to that night with little Amelia anymore because things are more focused on Amy's "is she/isn't she" pregnancy.
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1st May 2011, 6:04 PM #58
How the TARDIS ends up cloaked inside the box isn't explained, but that doesn't mean it doesn't make sense. The whole sequence of events leading to the Doctor being chained up in there in the first place aren't explained either. Maybe you don't like the fact that a big chunk of time has been missed out, but that's not the same thing as being nonsensical.
And the Doctor clearly says to Amy something about going and getting the swimming pool ready, right before River falls through the open TARDIS doors into a load of water, so I'd have to say it's very clearly implied that he went back to pick her up.
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1st May 2011, 6:06 PM #59
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1st May 2011, 6:26 PM #60
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I just finished the first two episodes of the new season... and I must say, I am loving this so far. A lot of the complaints seem to be because a lot of questions haven't been answered. Well, give the Who-team till the end of the season to answer them before you form any serious oppinions about the show.
The fact that there is a major storyline reaching past and episode or two is a good thing. People are comparing the show to Lost, but that isn't fair. Lost went 6 seasons of twenty something episodes and still didn't make sense when it went off the air. Doctor Who is nothing like that, nor will it be.
I finished Day of the Moon VERY excited about what's to come. I'm giddy like a regenerating school girl. I'm not a big fan of pirates, but even the next episode excites me. It's just something different from a cast, crew, and show that i deeply love!
Awesome stuff!!!!
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1st May 2011, 6:33 PM #61
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1st May 2011, 6:39 PM #62
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1st May 2011, 7:01 PM #63Close embrace
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Not really. In Silence in the Library she jettisoned herself into space never doubting for a moment that the Doctor would come for her.
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1st May 2011, 7:02 PM #64Close embrace
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Doh!!!
I think you'll find that was Time of Angels.
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1st May 2011, 8:06 PM #67
The Doctor doesn't die, but being shot whilst regenerating and then being set on fire makes his regeneration go horribly wrong.
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1st May 2011, 8:28 PM #68
I'd just like to say we don't know for cvertain that's Amy's baby in the photo- she could just be holding the baby.
Secondly there's something big going down with the end of the series last year. I think we're in some kind of rebooted universe. That's why Any's pregnancy showed up positive then negative ect because it doesn't quite work in this new universe. If Rory can remember his time as a Centurion, then something isn't quite right here.
I think we'll have to wait and watch the series very carefully in the coming weeks, because Moffat isn't going to give us all the answers at once. Like it or not, this is a very different way of doing Doctor Who (as Si said) and we're all going to have to get used paying more attention because even the smallest hints mean something now.
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1st May 2011, 8:46 PM #69
It is nonsensical if nothing's being explained and I'm watching a whole bunch of events that I have no idea what's going on or what anyone's motives are.
I wouldn't mind a big chunk of time passing, so long as if the events that happened during it actually made a difference and furthered the plot.
Why did they need to be separated for 3 months when there's a scene in the TARDIS where River is looking at a screen and there's a bunch of blips that signifies how many Silents there are? So did they really need to do recon for 3 months? I think not.
The whole opening sequence for me was just unnecessary and didn't add anything to the story except once again we're led to believe characters are dying when in fact they aren't. The whole thing has gotten silly, to the point where I was literally rolling my eyes at the premiere and sighed.
Did he? Or did he say to open the swimming pool doors because she was in there already?
I'm gonna go rewatch it and double check- but frankly, when there are big points that need to be made, the dialogue shouldn't go at a mile a minute.
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1st May 2011, 8:54 PM #70
You mean like that random woman who said "she's still dreaming"? Dunno if there's been another trailer released for you guys, but we saw a series 6 trailer that included her and a bunch of white robots that looked very similar to the Mind Robber.
Frankly, I get the sinking feeling that this whole thing with River and Amy and Rory has to do with implanting memories that never happened- because, again, Moffat recycles the same elements.
He did it in Forests of the Dead, he did it last series with the whole "she used her imagination to bring everyone back" (again, I just didn't like device and thought it was lame), and he's resurfacing again with the whole "post-hypnotic suggestion" thing.
I wouldn't mind it all if it was less up-its-own-arse, was better written, was less convoluted in terms of the number of questions being raised, if we had better character definition, and if there was actually more to the story in terms of universal themes.
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1st May 2011, 9:02 PM #71
Oh I feel a lot better now, I didn't hate it that much!
Jason will probably be able to answer this, but something else that has occured to me today is that if the Silence have actually stage-managed the moon landings simply to invent the spacesuit... wouldn't the spacesuit have been invented years before, when we started putting men into orbit back in the early 60s?
I also feel, but slightly tongue-in-cheek with this one, that if by the end of the season the spacesuit is still the only motive for the Silence in this story, then it makes the US location for the story a little bit tenuous, as the moon landing is almost incidental... It's not a real criticism, but hey we never forgive Arc of Infinity for its irrelevant Amsterdam setting, why should Moffat get away with it!!
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1st May 2011, 9:11 PM #72I’m being extremely clever up here and there’s no one to stand around looking impressed! What’s the point in having you all?
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1st May 2011, 9:19 PM #73
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1st May 2011, 9:47 PM #74
Well said that man! This is how I feel as well, I love a good mystery and like the idea of a big season arc which follows an ongoing story, rather than just a key word like "Bad Wolf" or "Torchwood". If at the end of the year Moffat's let us down I'll be the first to complain, but give the man a chance first!
The fact that there is a major storyline reaching past and episode or two is a good thing. People are comparing the show to Lost, but that isn't fair. Lost went 6 seasons of twenty something episodes and still didn't make sense when it went off the air. Doctor Who is nothing like that, nor will it be.
I finished Day of the Moon VERY excited about what's to come. I'm giddy like a regenerating school girl. I'm not a big fan of pirates, but even the next episode excites me. It's just something different from a cast, crew, and show that i deeply love!
Awesome stuff!!!!
I'm afraid I disagree, sorry Beastie. I think they've been some superb moments across the two episodes, with images that have remained in my mind since. The Silence for me are the best villain Moffat's created (ah, if only he hadn't have spoilt the weeping angels so in The Time Of Angels / Flesh and Stone). I love that there's so many questions posed (and compared to Lost, this is still child's play ) Amy and Rory have never been more appealing, Matt's still truly brilliant, and as for universal themes - well, there's the nature of love and friendship, the fear of it falling apart, the lengths we have to go to to do good, and the lines that sometimes must be crossed, the horror of death and losing a loved one, and the greed of those who wish to rule the world.
And they're just the ones off the top of my head. Now I don't think that's too bad for a two parter!"RIP Henchman No.24."
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1st May 2011, 10:16 PM #75
But The Silence are such a carbon copy of the angels. Perhaps it's cos I'm a horror/suspense fan, but they weren't creepy or scary at all to me (and I watched both parts in a dark movie theater) Boils down to personal taste, again, but there's no denying they're just angels with the ability to make you forget they were ever there.
How are Amy and Rory appealing to you? In your own words, I'd like to know. Because I don't see anything to them at all. Rory's character is very dependent on Amy's character and who she is, and I still can't put my finger on her as a character.
I meant the general theme of the series and The Doctor and how the situations and monsters and obstacles before the heroes are symbols for something greater.
For example, RTD's years were all about loneliness and the master in series 3's finale used this as a weapon against The Doctor by refusing to regenerate leaving The Doctor alone, with no hope of ever being together with his people again. And, when he was given that opportunity during The End of Time, he threw it away, because he saw someone he cared about dissenting- just as he would.
That's why it doesn't matter who that Timelady was; because (again, duality) The doctor looks at Donna and then to Wilf and Donna's mom- she was someone he cared about deeply and knew he had to hold true to his principles no matter how painful the result of his actions would be.
See? Something like that.
What was the deeper meaning of Pandorica Opens/Big Bang?
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