Rate and Discuss 4.7 Immortal Sins

[Alex]

Well this was an improvement on previous episodes, but it's still annoying me a bit. Gwen kidnapping Jack and blaming him for everything seemed really unfair (she made the choice to join Torchwood this time around / admits how much she gets off on it all) and her logic was blatantly flawed and out of character. Okay, she wants to save her child and that's fair enough, but she didn't need to be such a s**t about it all. That said Jack's unbelievable speech about tearing the skin off of her was ridiculous too, and that long tedious conversation in general irritated me.

The flashbacks to the 20's took too long to get going, but at least we got our first sight of something alien / a reference to the Doctor, and the love story was okay - though Angelo's sudden decision that Jack must be the devil before then changing his mind and not caring about the fact that he was seemingly immortal was quite silly.

Still, that all said, it was nice to see the origin of the villains, and a revelation to how it's linked to Jack, plus the suggestion that next week we'll finally discover what's happening. Though if that's not the case, I will be pretty pissed off.

6/10, but I'm feeling pretty generous about that.

[Dino]

BBC Newsman: Well we have breaking news coming in that we've just seen an episode of Torchwood that actually made sense. We go over to our reporter in the field. Can you hear me reporter?

Reporter: Thanks Tom...

BBC Newsman: George!

Reporter: I don't think it's the right time to say who your favourite Beatle was Tim, but I'm standing in front of the TV where we've just seen the episode in question.

Actually no, I can't carry on the rest of the post like this and I don't think I'll be able to top that Beatle joke.
I really loved that episode. It all seemed like it was going to end badly, but then victory was snatched from the jaws etc.

It fitted in to the ongoing story! (It could of happened earlier, but I was worried in the last episode it was Jack falling from that skyscraper so he'd be getting his body and bones back together for the whole episode, like the second episode of Children Of Earth)

Someone got shot... IN THE HEAD!
What more could you ask for?

8.

[The456]

BBC screwed up tonight they put some gay porno on instead of Torchwood here.

[Andrew Curnow]

It was... OK. Bizarrely the trailer for next week didn't look to follow on from any of this at all, and went on way too long. The episode was fine, although I found the 'beating up Jack' bit towards the end unpleasant viewing. The jury's out as to whether it's actually been mostly padding, as it kind of depends whether Italian guy (sorry, totally forgotten his name already) is really that crucial to the plot or not.

With only three episodes to really get going, though, I think Miracle Day is unlikely to end up as anything other than a brave experiment at reviving Torchwood again. We'll see.

[Zbigniev Hamson]

Have I missed something in Captain Jack's bio? He talked about living lifetimes worth in both the past and the future and how it's just how his life is to see lovers grow old and die, like some sort of Connor Mcleod. But... as far as I recall, after being resurrected on Satellite 5, he went back in time to some time in the mid-late 19th century, and has only since lived an extra 150-ish years to get back to the early 21st century to meet the Doctor again. Fair enough, after that he went back in time and spent another 2000 years buried "alive", but I doubt he acquired many lovers during that time. In any case, the time he was running around with Alphonso (or whatever his name was) in 1927 must have been his first trip through the 20th century as he was in cryogenic suspension the second time through. So by that point he'd only been alive about 90 years surely, which is pretty much just the one lifetime. Unless the Jack we saw in this episode was actually a future version, but then the cliffhanger would suggest otherwise.

[Junkyard]

Episode 8 will be finding out what's happened; episode 9 will be figuring out how to stop it and 10 the grand finale.