Rate and Discuss 6.8: Let's Kill Hitler (!)

[FlyingBeastie]

And it wasn't chosen because a race of people don't have words for Melody Pond but because she was told that she is River Song, that's just a timey wimey coincidence. It's a complicated Timey Wimey explanation but it works for me.

Soo once again she actually doesn't have free choice since she's being told who she is... again.

[Dirk Gently]

Now you're going down the route of whether anyone has free choice in history.

If I went back in time & told you before you joined P.S that your login was going to be FlyingBeastie would you have not used it, or would you have thought it a good name & used it anyway? The choice has already been made in history.

[Awesome Wells]

Now you're going down the route of whether anyone has free choice in history.

If I went back in time & told you before you joined P.S that your login was going to be FlyingBeastie would you have not used it, or would you have thought it a good name & used it anyway? The choice has already been made in history.

Very Novikovian of you, Tim.

[Ian Lethbridge-Stewart]

Very Novikovian of you, Tim.

Tim is actually Steven Moffat!

[Andrew Curnow]

His real name is Timy-Wimy.

[FlyingBeastie]

It occurs to me that Melody Pond was always the Doctor's murderer. As soon as Melody had completed this part of her organic programming then she was free to choose who she wanted to be; hence bringing the Doctor back to life.

Your words, buddy.

[Dirk Gently]

Yes, I know they are, I typed them. She chose to be River... but historically she always was.
My previous answer still stands.

[FlyingBeastie]

Yes, I know they are, I typed them. She chose to be River... but historically she always was.
My previous answer still stands.

She chose to be River once she was told she was River...

There wouldn't be a debate if she chose to be Harriet Von Schtinkwater

[Perry Vale]

I would say she chooses to become Professor River Song, and studies archeology. That's free will, because the Doctor never told her anything about that.

[Dirk Gently]

There wouldn't be a debate if she chose to be Harriet Von Schtinkwater

Yes there would. Because in that case the Doctor would have told her that she becomes Harriet Von Schtinkwater seeing as that is how she is known to the Doctor in her future, his past!

I really didn't expect this sort of argument from someone who watches a time travel show.

[Stuart Wallis]

Tim is actually Steven Moffat!

No wonder he's allergic to fans, the old misery!

[FlyingBeastie]

I would say she chooses to become Professor River Song, and studies archeology. That's free will, because the Doctor never told her anything about that.

Putting it that way, yes, I agree.

[WhiteCrowNZ]

Sometimes a picture portrays a thousand words ... thank you Caan.

Awful episode. One of the worst I've ever seen.

[FlyingBeastie]

Welcome back Mike!