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  1. 6th Mar 2007, 12:44 AM #1
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    Upon discovering that my disc 2 of my box set is cracked, and doesn't play...
    I just wanted to start this thread, because I know that most people have some form of opinion on this episode.

    I just wanted people to almost evaluate the episode...
    say if they did or didn't like it, and to list reasons for or against!!

    Oh.... and 'Steven Moffat' does not count as a reason on its own!!

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  2. 6th Mar 2007, 4:25 AM #2
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    erm....

    Steven Moffat.













    Just kidding I'll write a proper response at some point, hopefully!

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  3. 6th Mar 2007, 7:50 AM #3
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    I wanted to like it more than I did, if that's not a stupid answer. Or maybe I liked it more than I think? Put it this way, we all enjoyed watching it on the Saturday - the bit with the horse suddenly appearing, and then the climax when the Doctor comes through the mirror, and also the rotating fireplace, entertained all three of us. But...

    ...it's probably the only episode other than "New Earth" which we had no great inclination to watch again, either on the Sunday or subsequently. Maybe for us it's like the "Masque of Mandragora" of the new series - when you watch it, you enjoy it, but it never leaps out at you as a story you want to watch.

    Staying off topic, but I would say it's more the sort of episode I expected from Steven Moffat first time around - namely, something quirky, which plays around with the normal chronological structure.

    So that would be a vote for "Don't Know" then!
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  4. 6th Mar 2007, 7:55 AM #4
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    What gets me about TGIFP is that we're constantly told that Reinette is this wonderfully accomplished, amazing woman but very little of that actually comes to the screen. We're told about it- The Doctor says it, the King says it, everyone agrees but it's not shown- it's told. There's very little aside from her open mindedness about The Doctor to make her special from what's on screen and I can't quite believe that this is the one woman the Doctor would give up everything for.
    The chemistry between David and Sophia almost makes it work, but it's not quite as good as it should be.

    Oh and I find Steven Moffat quite unbearbly smug. Maybe it's his interviews that put me off more than the episode.


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  5. 6th Mar 2007, 9:36 AM #5
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    great story , histoical, lovely costumes, fantastic looking robots, humour, sadness, love, and and the beautifull Sophia Myles...so how can you possibaly not like it..
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  6. 6th Mar 2007, 11:11 AM #6
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    Quote Originally Posted by Teresa View Post
    I just wanted to start this thread, because I know that most people have some form of opinion on this episode.
    I just wanted people to almost evaluate the episode...
    say if they did or didn't like it, and to list reasons for or against!!
    You'll find some more opinions, including mine, on Ant's Series 2 Re-appraisal thread.
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  7. 6th Mar 2007, 2:04 PM #7
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    It's mostly Moffat haters (OMG!! FFS! It's cuz he hates Doctor Who fans and is a smug ****! Mummy!! ) and anal old fanboys that hate this one. It easily pisses all over about 90% of other Doctor Who stories. Even my gran agrees.
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    It's mostly Moffat haters (OMG!! FFS! It's cuz he hates Doctor Who fans and is a smug ****! Mummy!! ) and anal old fanboys that hate this one.
    That's me then

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    I love it personally, don't care what anyone says. One or two elements could have been handled better (the Doctor's reaction to Reinette's initial coming onto him doesn't feel quite right, and I'm not sure the fake drunkenness scene quite comes off blah blah...but these are fairly minor quibbles), but overall it has what Trevor Sigma called "a pleasant melancholy". Helps that it's beautifully made and lit too.

    I sometimes think of it as a cross between Red Dwarf, Warriors' Gate and Carnival of Monsters. Well, I can if I want to.
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  10. 6th Mar 2007, 5:05 PM #10
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    Quote Originally Posted by Logo Polish View Post
    I love it personally, don't care what anyone says.
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  11. 6th Mar 2007, 5:10 PM #11
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    I think it's rubbish, & i don't care what anyone says, either.
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    It ain't no 'Robot'.
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    I love it. It's my favourite new series episode to date. By a long way, actually.
    I must admit, just when I think I'm king, I just begin!
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    Childish Argument Alert:

    IT'S SO BORING!

    Zzzz...

    It looks superbly pretty though!
    Pity. I have no understanding of the word. It is not registered in my vocabulary bank. EXTERMINATE!
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  15. 6th Mar 2007, 10:47 PM #15
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    Did the Girl in the Fireplace come from Stoke?

    I hear David Tennant wanted to Poker ...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Carol Baynes View Post
    I love it. It's my favourite new series episode to date. By a long way, actually.
    I couldn't agree more Carol - I certainly see it that way
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    Quote Originally Posted by Milky Tears View Post
    It ain't no 'Robot'.
    You got that right.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rob McCow View Post
    Childish Argument Alert:

    IT'S SO BORING!

    Zzzz...

    It looks superbly pretty though!
    And you talk up Masque of Mandragora!
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  19. 6th Mar 2007, 11:27 PM #19
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    Grill in the Fireplace is the Mandragora of the New Series.
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    Can I just say that Murray Gold's music for this episode is just beautiful?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dave Tudor View Post
    Can I just say that Murray Gold's music for this episode is just beautiful?
    Of course you can Dave!
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